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Old August 16th 07, 08:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
El Maximo
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Default Interesting results thus far (was: Unscientific survey - why are you a pilot?)

"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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MX as Control Group! PERFECT!!


You can't use him as a control group. I'm already using him in my Conflict
Resolution for Managers and Supervisors seminars.


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Old August 16th 07, 08:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Jay Beckman[_2_]
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Default Interesting results thus far (was: Unscientific survey - why are you a pilot?)

On Aug 16, 12:52 pm, "El Maximo" wrote:
"Jay Beckman" wrote in message

oups.com...



MX as Control Group! PERFECT!!


You can't use him as a control group. I'm already using him in my Conflict
Resolution for Managers and Supervisors seminars.


ROFL...

Jay B

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Old August 17th 07, 03:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Doug Semler
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Default Interesting results thus far (was: Unscientific survey - why are you a pilot?)

"El Maximo" wrote in message
...
"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
oups.com...



MX as Control Group! PERFECT!!


You can't use him as a control group. I'm already using him in my Conflict
Resolution for Managers and Supervisors seminars.


****. My girlfriend just came out from the other room worried that
something was wrong...literally. That was roflmao funny. props. high five
(p.s. thanks for the laugh!)
--
Doug Semler
a.a. #705, BAAWA. EAC Guardian of the Horn of the IPU (pbuhh).
The answer is 42; DNRC o-
Gur Hfrarg unf orpbzr fb shyy bs penc gurfr qnlf, abbar rira
erpbtavmrf fvzcyr guvatf yvxr ebg13 nalzber. Fnq, vfa'g vg?

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Old August 20th 07, 06:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Don Byrer
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Default Doug Semler has it all wrong

DISCLAIMER---good natured fun


OK, so doug is doin' this pilot survey thing...but his sig sez:

Doug Semler
a.a. #705, BAAWA. EAC Guardian of the Horn of the IPU (pbuhh).
----The answer is 42---; DNRC o-
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The answer is 42??? OK, yes to Life , the Universe and
Everything...but...

hey buddy WE are pilots,

The REAL answers a
------------------------------
29.92" (aka 1013mb)
15C
0'

WHAT...ELSE...DO...YOU...NEED TO KNOW?

'cept mebbe 121.5 just in case...

Sorry, couldnt resist!

Don...also a Douglas Adams fan


Don Byrer KJ5KB
Radar Tech & Smilin' Commercial Pilot Guy
Glider & CFI wannabe
kj5kb-at-hotmail.com

"I have slipped the surly bonds of earth; now if I can just land without bending the gear..."
"Watch out for those doves...smack-smack-smack-smack..."
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Old August 17th 07, 03:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Doug Semler
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Default Interesting results thus far (was: Unscientific survey - why are you a pilot?)

"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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Hmmm. More things to think about. We need a control group now g


Hey guess what? We have a resident Control Group built right in on
these boards:

- He Hates Airplanes
- He Hates Pilots
- He Avoids Risk Taking of Any Kind
- He Would Rather Simulate Flying (and life for that matter)
- And he is niether Left nor Right brained because he doesn't use one
at all!!

MX as Control Group! PERFECT!!



OK. I wasn't QUITE thinking that.

I was actually thinking about those that seem to follow the "psychological
profile" that I've developed and figure out why they are NOT pilots big
grin.

--
Doug Semler
a.a. #705, BAAWA. EAC Guardian of the Horn of the IPU (pbuhh).
The answer is 42; DNRC o-
Gur Hfrarg unf orpbzr fb shyy bs penc gurfr qnlf, abbar rira
erpbtavmrf fvzcyr guvatf yvxr ebg13 nalzber. Fnq, vfa'g vg?

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Old August 18th 07, 12:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Doug Semler
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Default Interesting results thus far (was: Unscientific survey - why are you a pilot?)


[snip]


In addition...It also seems, that at least the posters in this group, have
*very* convoluted senses of humor....Now I don't know what exactly that
indicates though...... g



--
Doug Semler
a.a. #705, BAAWA. EAC Guardian of the Horn of the IPU (pbuhh).
The answer is 42; DNRC o-
Gur Hfrarg unf orpbzr fb shyy bs penc gurfr qnlf, abbar rira
erpbtavmrf fvzcyr guvatf yvxr ebg13 nalzber. Fnq, vfa'g vg?

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Old August 20th 07, 07:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Don Byrer
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Default Interesting results thus far (was: Unscientific survey - why are you a pilot?)

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:09:18 -0400, "Doug Semler"
wrote:


[snip]


In addition...It also seems, that at least the posters in this group, have
*very* convoluted senses of humor....Now I don't know what exactly that
indicates though...... g


Healthy active minds...nothing else.

Cuz I said so
Don Byrer KJ5KB
Radar Tech & Smilin' Commercial Pilot Guy
Glider & CFI wannabe
kj5kb-at-hotmail.com

"I have slipped the surly bonds of earth; now if I can just land without bending the gear..."
"Watch out for those doves...smack-smack-smack-smack..."
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Old August 17th 07, 10:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Kai Rode
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Default Unscientific survey - why are you a pilot?

I'm still a student pilot, but I'll answer anyway.

Do you have a "family history" of aviation/piloting?


No.

Are you an adventure seeker (anything from "true" adrenaline junkee to
"every day is different and brings a new challenge")


No.

Are you constantly seeking new challenges?


No....well maybe.

(subpart) Do you find that you get bored easily?


Yes

Do you have a "thirst for knowledge" (e.g. would you rather be in
school than working)?


Yes, definitely.

(subpart) Do you find yourself constantly seeking out new things
about flying regularly or do you only look it up when you run across
something you don't know.


I'm not sure.

Are you a "control freak" (type-a)?


No, probably Type B.

Do you have hints of "delusions of grandeur?" or is it more like "I'm
on top of the world when I fly"


More the on top of the world thing.

Are you an introvert or an extrovert?


Introvert.

If given the choice, would you rather read fiction or an aviation
oriented book?


Fiction.

(For those that use the radio) Do you find that you have always had
good communication skills?


No, I don't think so.

Are you left brained or right brained (logic-and-math or Artsy
fartsy)?


Logic and Math; got a degree in mathematics.

Or am I missing something soooo obvious that I'll die of embarassment
when it's pointed out to me? Or even worse, is there no measurable
psychological correlation to flying and I'm just out to lunch
(wouldn't be the first time g)


Probably. ))
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Old August 17th 07, 01:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default Unscientific survey - why are you a pilot?

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:14:53 -0700, Doug Semler
wrote:

(Trying to steer a thread to the topic of the group g)

A response of mine in another thread got me to thinking (dangerous, I
know) about what makes a person *want* to become a pilot. This has
probably been asked umpteen times before, and will be asked umpteen
times in the future, but I am trying to get a feel for the
psychological aspect that causes a person to WANT to be a pilot. So


you get attracted to flying because of the romantic half truths and
stories about how wonderful it is.

bear in mind that we humans havent popped out of a factory as a result
of extensive design competitions and manufacturing expertise, we are
the result of self perpetuating biological systems that have varied
over time. in us are traces of our ancestry.
we have chemical signalling to all parts of our body. we have traces
of our reptilian past in our circuitry, traces of mamalian brain
structures and the forebrain intellect that marks us as humans.

what you experience when you fly, especially if you overcome the fear
of falling out of the sky, is enough massaging of the intellectual
combined with chemical responses that pervade the entire body that
make the experience like no other. apart from sex I know of no other
experience that so massages the pleasure systems of the chemical and
electrical pathways of the human body.

I enjoy the intellectual aspect of mastery of unseen dynamic forces. I
enjoy the flood of natural endorphins that accompanyies flying. above
all I enjoy the mastery of a pursuit that most people regard as the
most significant threat to their lives.
I also enjoy the totally non intuitive understanding of the world that
a sound knowledge of aviation engineering brings.

Stealth Pilot
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Old August 17th 07, 04:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Al G[_1_]
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Default Unscientific survey - why are you a pilot?


"Doug Semler" wrote in message
ups.com...
(Trying to steer a thread to the topic of the group g)

A response of mine in another thread got me to thinking (dangerous, I
know) about what makes a person *want* to become a pilot. This has
probably been asked umpteen times before, and will be asked umpteen
times in the future, but I am trying to get a feel for the
psychological aspect that causes a person to WANT to be a pilot. So
this is directed towards non-pilots and students as well. Of course,
every individual is different, but these 2 newsgroups are pretty
directed towards pilots so can be taken as an unscientfic
representative sample.

In some cases looking in Jay's general direction it's because it's
an opportunity for family bonding and whathaveyou. Some cases are
probably your run-of-the-mill "cool factor" cases. And, of course, I
am sure that there are the cases of the "I'm better than you because I
can do something you can't do" syndrome. But I'm wondering if there
isn't some deep commonality amongst most pilots to which we can
point?

Do you have a "family history" of aviation/piloting?


Father was an Army Air Corp Cadet, training ended by end of war.

Are you an adventure seeker (anything from "true" adrenaline junkee to
"every day is different and brings a new challenge")


Not really, always interested in machines. (paticularly drivable
machines)

Are you constantly seeking new challenges?


They seem to find me.

(subpart) Do you find that you get bored easily?


Yes.

Do you have a "thirst for knowledge" (e.g. would you rather be in
school than working)?


Thirst for knowledge, absolutely. School? Hell no.

(subpart) Do you find yourself constantly seeking out new things
about flying regularly or do you only look it up when you run across
something you don't know.


Always seeking.

(subpart - for instructors) Do you enjoy it when your student "gets
it" or has that "aha! moment?"


Yes, absolutely. Sharing a success is fun!

Are you a "control freak" (type-a)?


I feel better when I'm not following an idiot, and there are a lot of
'em, so yes, I'd prefer to be in control.

Do you have hints of "delusions of grandeur?" or is it more like "I'm
on top of the world when I fly"


What delusions?

Are you an introvert or an extrovert?


Introvert, but I stayed in a holiday inn once.

If given the choice, would you rather read fiction or an aviation
oriented book?


Aviation Mysteries.

(For those that use the radio) Do you find that you have always had
good communication skills?


Yes.

Are you left brained or right brained (logic-and-math or Artsy
fartsy)?

right, I guess.

Or am I missing something soooo obvious that I'll die of embarassment
when it's pointed out to me? Or even worse, is there no measurable
psychological correlation to flying and I'm just out to lunch
(wouldn't be the first time g)

Note:
I was thinking about including education history (e.g. are pilots more
likely to be college graduates) but that introduces 2 biases (age and
income) into it. However maybe a question along the lines of "while
in school did you consider yourself to be a good student" would be
better.

No, then yes.


Ok, I've got a question for survey takers:

Are you a self starter? Did you have a paper route?



Al G


 




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