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  #61  
Old October 23rd 07, 08:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Jay Honeck wrote in news:1193168837.925665.294690
@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com:

The Garmin GPS units are recreated with complete accuracy


No, they aren't.


Yes, 'fraid they are.



Right, they fail when you fly near Iraq, do they?

Bertie
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Old October 23rd 07, 08:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck wrote in news:1193168888.248907.85890
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The Garmin GPS units are recreated with complete accuracy


No, they aren't.


Yes, 'fraid they are.



No, they aren't


Bertie
  #63  
Old October 23rd 07, 08:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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And it will actually *help* you learn to fly a full scale airplane,
as opposed to MSFS, which will teach you bad habits you will have to
unlearn.


There are important differences between RC flight and real flight, at
least as many as there are between sim flight and real flight.


Nope, They are both flight.


While it's true, they are both flight, I didn't find much in flying R/
C that translated directly into the cockpit of a full-sized plane.

R/C is, in fact, quite different. The controls, view, weather
minimums, flight characteristics, starting procedures, safety
precautions -- in short, EVERYTHING --is different from learning to
fly in full-sized aircraft.

Compare this to our Kiwi flight simulator, where the controls, view,
weather, flight characteristics, and starting procedures are virtually
identical. (Our "safety precautions" consist of setting your beer
down before departure; we may then pick it up again and imbibe whilst
en route... :-)

In the end, I'd say the Kiwi (Note: NOT sitting at your desk, flying
MSFS with a mouse or joystick) is far more beneficial to budding young
pilots than flying R/C.

Not that flying R/C isn't a LOT of fun, mind you...
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Old October 23rd 07, 09:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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This past year I've put in over 720 hours of simulation. If I wanted to do
that in real life, even on a very tiny airplane, it would cost me $253,800 in
rental fees (not counting $56,000 to get the pilot's license and IR).


$352 per hour to rent a plane? What're you comparing this to,
renting a Caravan?

And where I live, you can get the Private *and* Instrument ratings for
around $10K.

I find it incredible that you have spent the equivalent of 4.3 MONTHS
sitting in front of Microsoft Flight Simulator this *year*??? I
can't decide whether that's awesome, sick, or both...
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Old October 23rd 07, 09:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Jay Honeck wrote in news:1193169388.907928.15120
@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com:

And it will actually *help* you learn to fly a full scale

airplane,
as opposed to MSFS, which will teach you bad habits you will have

to
unlearn.


There are important differences between RC flight and real flight,

at
least as many as there are between sim flight and real flight.


Nope, They are both flight.


While it's true, they are both flight, I didn't find much in flying R/
C that translated directly into the cockpit of a full-sized plane.

R/C is, in fact, quite different. The controls, view, weather
minimums, flight characteristics, starting procedures, safety
precautions -- in short, EVERYTHING --is different from learning to
fly in full-sized aircraft.


Nope, they both fly, sims don't, that's the difference.

If you can't see the similarites beyond that statement you just made,
then you aren't flying either one correctly.


Compare this to our Kiwi flight simulator, where the controls, view,
weather, flight characteristics, and starting procedures are virtually
identical. (Our "safety precautions" consist of setting your beer
down before departure; we may then pick it up again and imbibe whilst
en route... :-)

In the end, I'd say the Kiwi (Note: NOT sitting at your desk, flying
MSFS with a mouse or joystick) is far more beneficial to budding young
pilots than flying R/C.



I disagree. I think sims like your's do more harm than good when they're
used to teach aircraft handling.

In fact, I am sure they do.

Sims can teach procedure and that's all. And I have done sim instructing
in much better contraptions than that thing you call a sim.
For lightplane flying they will, unfortunately, continue to drag
handling standads down below their already abyssmal level until those
skills are as rare as a muleskinner's.



Bertie



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Old October 23rd 07, 09:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:48:08 -0700, Jay Honeck wrote:

Yes, 'fraid they are.


Sorta yes and no...

The RXP Garmin 430/530 for Flight Sim can't be upgraded with WAAS software,
topographic map databases/terrain awareness or the datalink receiver for
NEXRAD, METARs, TAFs and lightning data.

But oddly enough, it can cross-fill if you have two of them... something
even the Garmin Trainer can't do.

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Old October 23rd 07, 09:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:01:46 -0700, Jay Honeck wrote:

I find it incredible that you have spent the equivalent of 4.3 MONTHS
sitting in front of Microsoft Flight Simulator


Ha... too bad he can't get paid for it.

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Old October 23rd 07, 09:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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The Garmin GPS units are recreated with complete accuracy

No, they aren't.


Yes, 'fraid they are.


Right, they fail when you fly near Iraq, do they?


Probably not, although I don't really know. (An existential
question: Would that be a failure when flying your virtual aircraft
near virtual Iraq, or a failure when your PC is located near *real*
Iraq?)

:-)

I do know this (and this is the best part): Garmins don't cost as much
as a nice motorcycle to own, in MSFS...

:-)
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Old October 23rd 07, 09:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Jay Honeck wrote in news:1193171995.958041.27240
@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com:

The Garmin GPS units are recreated with complete accuracy


No, they aren't.


Yes, 'fraid they are.


Right, they fail when you fly near Iraq, do they?


Probably not, although I don't really know.




I do.


(An existential
question: Would that be a failure when flying your virtual aircraft
near virtual Iraq, or a failure when your PC is located near *real*
Iraq?)


You can't fly a virtual airplane.

:-)

I do know this (and this is the best part): Garmins don't cost as much
as a nice motorcycle to own, in MSFS...




Neither does an inflatible girl.



Bertie


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Old October 23rd 07, 09:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:43:03 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Neither does an inflatible girl.


Can you get an inflatable girl in MSFS?

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