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FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour



 
 
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Old December 14th 07, 05:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.skydiving
Mark Hickey
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Default FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour

Mxsmanic wrote:

F. Baum writes:

Jim, I caught just the parts of the show where J and A tried to land
the plane with some coaching from the sim instructor (Mainly to see
how the instructor would do this). These portions of the show were
amazingly brief (Possibly for security reasons ?) . The stuff they did
show was scary and I doubt they could have gotten awhay with some of
it in a real plane. I do watch the show for its "Infotaiment" value
but I remain unconvinced that someone could actually be talked down in
an airliner. I think it has been tried a time or two in GA after the
pilot became incapacitated.


A small GA airplane is completely different from an airliner, but in any case,
it has been done successfully in small planes. No circumstances have ever
required it in airliners, but it's certainly doable.


It's important to remember that the would-be pilot/savior would have
tremendous motivation to get it right the first time. When thinking
through that scenario, I always pictured having three or four people
in the cockpit - each with a limited job that they'd be walked through
by an expert on the radio... maybe each with a cell phone connecting
them to individual team members on the ground. Then it's just up to
those experts on the ground to talk each of them through about 1/4 of
the process of getting the plane on the ground in one piece (as
opposed to making a flawless landing on the numbers).

Of course, then they'd all be arrested upong landing for using their
cellphones in flight.

Mark "it's the price you pay for survival I guess" Hickey
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Old December 14th 07, 06:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.skydiving
Darrel Toepfer
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Default FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour

Mxsmanic wrote:

No circumstances have ever required it in airliners, but it's
certainly doable.


http://imdb.com/title/tt0080339
http://imdb.com/title/tt0083530
http://imdb.com/title/tt0065377
http://imdb.com/title/tt0071110
http://imdb.com/title/tt0367085


















I kneaux, I really shouldn't have...
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Old December 14th 07, 04:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

F. Baum writes:

Jim, I caught just the parts of the show where J and A tried to land
the plane with some coaching from the sim instructor (Mainly to see
how the instructor would do this). These portions of the show were
amazingly brief (Possibly for security reasons ?) . The stuff they
did show was scary and I doubt they could have gotten awhay with some
of it in a real plane. I do watch the show for its "Infotaiment"
value but I remain unconvinced that someone could actually be talked
down in an airliner. I think it has been tried a time or two in GA
after the pilot became incapacitated.


A small GA airplane is completely different from an airliner,


Wrong again, asshole.


Bertie
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Old December 14th 07, 01:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.skydiving
Mxsmanic
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Default FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour

"Jim Macklin" writes:

What they showed with landing the NASA simulator is that any person with
some level experience with a cockpit display can control an airliner. Most
FAA controllers would not have the experience to describe the cockpit and
give useful instruction in how to manually fly with the autopilot or where
the switches are located, or how to use the radio to even start the
"rescue."


FAA controllers can find pilots and put them on the radio, if required.
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Old December 14th 07, 02:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.skydiving
cavelamb himself[_4_]
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Default FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour

Mxsmanic wrote:
"Jim Macklin" writes:


What they showed with landing the NASA simulator is that any person with
some level experience with a cockpit display can control an airliner. Most
FAA controllers would not have the experience to describe the cockpit and
give useful instruction in how to manually fly with the autopilot or where
the switches are located, or how to use the radio to even start the
"rescue."



FAA controllers can find pilots and put them on the radio, if required.



Who is this fool????
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Old December 14th 07, 02:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.skydiving
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Default FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour

cavelamb himself wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
"Jim Macklin" writes:


What they showed with landing the NASA simulator is that any person
with some level experience with a cockpit display can control an
airliner. Most FAA controllers would not have the experience to
describe the cockpit and give useful instruction in how to manually
fly with the autopilot or where the switches are located, or how to
use the radio to even start the "rescue."



FAA controllers can find pilots and put them on the radio, if required.



Who is this fool????




:-)) Welcome to the club!

--
Dudley Henriques
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Old December 14th 07, 04:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.skydiving
Morgans[_2_]
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Default FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour


"cavelamb himself" wrote

Who is this fool????


You've just been MXed!
--
Jim in NC


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Old December 14th 07, 02:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

"Jim Macklin" writes:

What they showed with landing the NASA simulator is that any person
with some level experience with a cockpit display can control an
airliner. Most FAA controllers would not have the experience to
describe the cockpit and give useful instruction in how to manually
fly with the autopilot or where the switches are located, or how to
use the radio to even start the "rescue."


FAA controllers can find pilots and put them on the radio, if
required.



Yeah, john wayne, robert stack and randolph scott on speed dial just in
case they all have the fish.


Bertie
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Old December 14th 07, 02:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
ManhattanMan
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Default FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in
:

"Jim Macklin" writes:

What they showed with landing the NASA simulator is that any person
with some level experience with a cockpit display can control an
airliner. Most FAA controllers would not have the experience to
describe the cockpit and give useful instruction in how to manually
fly with the autopilot or where the switches are located, or how to
use the radio to even start the "rescue."


FAA controllers can find pilots and put them on the radio, if
required.



Yeah, john wayne, robert stack and randolph scott on speed dial just
in case they all have the fish.


Bertie



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Old December 14th 07, 02:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
ManhattanMan
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Default FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Yeah, john wayne, robert stack and randolph scott on speed dial just
in case they all have the fish.



You forgot Moses, errrr, Charlton Heston.............. ****, anyone that
can be air dropped into a 747 can't be all bad!


 




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