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Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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I think the old manual Mooneys were pretty easy to get wrong as
well.
there was one at Montgomeryville that kneeled down at the pumps
when
someone who was looking for the parking brake undid the handle.
Never
flew one, but there's some sort of collar that can be slid away and
alows the selector handle or lock handle to move and unlock?


Bertie
Kind of spoils the whole mood for the flight :-)))


Yeah, I think the prop was vertical as well, just to add injury to
insult.


Bertie

Ouch!! At least when this happens you get a new found bounce in your
step with all that weight out of your wallet that was there before it
happened.
:-)

Actually, I know it was vertical. The line boy who was pushing it from
the pumps nearly had his toe taken off by the prop. It was the only
Mooney based at Montgomeryville at the time. Only one I know of anyway.
I remeber it was a wooden wing airplane. Always liked the look of it. I
still have a pic of myself next to it, somewhere.

When the pins are in in an airliner, maintenance will happily move the
handle inside the flight deck. I was broken down away from base with a
ruptured main actuator that needed replacement and rigging. They needed
us out at the airplane because none of them were cleared for engine runs
and they needed the power form the engine driven pumps to do the job (
actually they needed a special precision pump that could move the gear
actuator precisely, but they didn;t have one)
Not a nice feeling seeing that handle move on the ground. They didn't
fix it and we all retired to the rathskeller.



Bertie

Dudley Henriques wrote in
:



But not in the before takeoff checks.
It appears in every retactable during the cockpit safety inspection (
your preflight begins with this, though it is not partitioned) And
often before engine start as a precaution. Never seen it in the
before takeoff checks.. You'd probably already know it wasnt down at
that point.


Bertie

Yeah. That scraping sound as you try to taxi into position is a dead
giveaway :-))


Heh heh. there's an apocryphal story about a DH Comet that landed wheels up
and they didn't realize it until they found that even full power wouldn't
move the airplane..

There was an Electra at Shannon, Ireland a few years back that tried to
land wheels up and went around after having lost three engines ( I think it
was number 1 that kept going) they managed to get around the pattern and
land. That one is true. I've seen the airplane.

Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

I think the old manual Mooneys were pretty easy to get wrong as
well.
there was one at Montgomeryville that kneeled down at the pumps
when
someone who was looking for the parking brake undid the handle.
Never
flew one, but there's some sort of collar that can be slid away and
alows the selector handle or lock handle to move and unlock?


Bertie
Kind of spoils the whole mood for the flight :-)))

Yeah, I think the prop was vertical as well, just to add injury to
insult.


Bertie

Ouch!! At least when this happens you get a new found bounce in your
step with all that weight out of your wallet that was there before it
happened.
:-)

Actually, I know it was vertical. The line boy who was pushing it from
the pumps nearly had his toe taken off by the prop. It was the only
Mooney based at Montgomeryville at the time. Only one I know of anyway.
I remeber it was a wooden wing airplane. Always liked the look of it. I
still have a pic of myself next to it, somewhere.

When the pins are in in an airliner, maintenance will happily move the
handle inside the flight deck. I was broken down away from base with a
ruptured main actuator that needed replacement and rigging. They needed
us out at the airplane because none of them were cleared for engine runs
and they needed the power form the engine driven pumps to do the job (
actually they needed a special precision pump that could move the gear
actuator precisely, but they didn;t have one)
Not a nice feeling seeing that handle move on the ground. They didn't
fix it and we all retired to the rathskeller.



Bertie

Do you mean Hi Line when you say Montgomeryville or Turner?

--
Dudley Henriques

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:


But not in the before takeoff checks.
It appears in every retactable during the cockpit safety inspection (
your preflight begins with this, though it is not partitioned) And
often before engine start as a precaution. Never seen it in the
before takeoff checks.. You'd probably already know it wasnt down at
that point.


Bertie

Yeah. That scraping sound as you try to taxi into position is a dead
giveaway :-))


Heh heh. there's an apocryphal story about a DH Comet that landed wheels up
and they didn't realize it until they found that even full power wouldn't
move the airplane..

There was an Electra at Shannon, Ireland a few years back that tried to
land wheels up and went around after having lost three engines ( I think it
was number 1 that kept going) they managed to get around the pattern and
land. That one is true. I've seen the airplane.

Bertie


Lucky guys.

--
Dudley Henriques

On Mar 22, 1:00*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
But I've never retracted the gear
on an airplane.


jejehjehjehejhehjjeheh fjukkwjit. A self proclaimed master of gear
systems, yet never retracted a single airplane's landing gear. Talk
about making idiotic statements.

buttman wrote in news:dd0aa204-0954-4dcb-9daf-
:

On Mar 22, 1:00*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
But I've never retracted the gear
on an airplane.


jejehjehjehejhehjjeheh fjukkwjit. A self proclaimed master of gear
systems, yet never retracted a single airplane's landing gear. Talk
about making idiotic statements.


Yes, you do.


Bertie

buttman wrote:
On Mar 22, 1:00 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
But I've never retracted the gear
on an airplane.


jejehjehjehejhehjjeheh fjukkwjit. A self proclaimed master of gear
systems, yet never retracted a single airplane's landing gear. Talk
about making idiotic statements.

I believe he meant "on the ground". It's sort of a deductive reasoning
thing :-)


--
Dudley Henriques

Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

buttman wrote:
On Mar 22, 1:00 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
But I've never retracted the gear
on an airplane.


jejehjehjehejhehjjeheh fjukkwjit. A self proclaimed master of gear
systems, yet never retracted a single airplane's landing gear. Talk
about making idiotic statements.

I believe he meant "on the ground". It's sort of a deductive reasoning
thing :-)



He's a regular Inspector Clousseau.



Bertie

Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:


But not in the before takeoff checks.
It appears in every retactable during the cockpit safety inspection
( your preflight begins with this, though it is not partitioned)
And often before engine start as a precaution. Never seen it in the
before takeoff checks.. You'd probably already know it wasnt down
at that point.


Bertie

Yeah. That scraping sound as you try to taxi into position is a dead
giveaway :-))


Heh heh. there's an apocryphal story about a DH Comet that landed
wheels up and they didn't realize it until they found that even full
power wouldn't move the airplane..

There was an Electra at Shannon, Ireland a few years back that tried
to land wheels up and went around after having lost three engines ( I
think it was number 1 that kept going) they managed to get around the
pattern and land. That one is true. I've seen the airplane.

Bertie


Lucky guys.


Yeah, they just forgot. I forget how they got around the gear horn.
Might have been u/s or maybe the system is primitive and can be defeaed
by, say, a high power setting or something. I doremember reading that
they had had a very long night.


Bertie

Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

I think the old manual Mooneys were pretty easy to get wrong as
well.
there was one at Montgomeryville that kneeled down at the pumps
when
someone who was looking for the parking brake undid the handle.
Never
flew one, but there's some sort of collar that can be slid away
and alows the selector handle or lock handle to move and unlock?


Bertie
Kind of spoils the whole mood for the flight :-)))

Yeah, I think the prop was vertical as well, just to add injury to
insult.


Bertie

Ouch!! At least when this happens you get a new found bounce in
your step with all that weight out of your wallet that was there
before it happened.
:-)

Actually, I know it was vertical. The line boy who was pushing it
from the pumps nearly had his toe taken off by the prop. It was the
only Mooney based at Montgomeryville at the time. Only one I know of
anyway. I remeber it was a wooden wing airplane. Always liked the
look of it. I still have a pic of myself next to it, somewhere.

When the pins are in in an airliner, maintenance will happily move
the handle inside the flight deck. I was broken down away from base
with a ruptured main actuator that needed replacement and rigging.
They needed us out at the airplane because none of them were cleared
for engine runs and they needed the power form the engine driven
pumps to do the job ( actually they needed a special precision pump
that could move the gear actuator precisely, but they didn;t have
one) Not a nice feeling seeing that handle move on the ground. They
didn't fix it and we all retired to the rathskeller.



Bertie

Do you mean Hi Line when you say Montgomeryville or Turner?

Hi Line? Must have been before my time. The one that wan't turner. the
one on 309.It was just called Montgomeryville for as long as I knew it.



Bertie