F-16 Encounters in MOA

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
BT wrote:
he was in the MOA and was forced up into Class A above the MOA


Forced by what?



The TCAS telling him that if he didn't he was going to have a midair
collision.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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The first guy was a coward, the second was not.


People blowing smoke simply become emotional and resort to personal
attacks.

On Jul 14, 7:49*am, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:

I'm hardly a military basher but in this case the civilian pilot did try
to see an avoid and that is what caused the problem. He was listening to
his TCAS and doing what it said. The F16 pilot should have realized this
when the civilian started maneuvering and broken off the intercept.

Yea, it would seem that the only see-and-avoid you can fault the
civilian pilot with is not having the capability to out perform the
F-16 as he tried to escape the collision alert.

-Robert

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"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

On Jul 14, 7:49*am, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:

I'm hardly a military basher but in this case the civilian pilot did try
to see an avoid and that is what caused the problem. He was listening to
his TCAS and doing what it said. The F16 pilot should have realized this
when the civilian started maneuvering and broken off the intercept.

Yea, it would seem that the only see-and-avoid you can fault the
civilian pilot with is not having the capability to out perform the
F-16 as he tried to escape the collision alert.

I fail to see how a 90-degree clearing turn would not have brought the
threat into view and provided an escape to resolve the TCAS warning.

Steve Foley writes:

People blowing smoke simply become emotional and resort to personal
attacks.

That depends on their personality, but this is often true.

John Smith writes:

I fail to see how a 90-degree clearing turn would not have brought the
threat into view and provided an escape to resolve the TCAS warning.

Civilian pilots are not normally taught how to recognize and evade "threats."

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Steve Foley writes:

People blowing smoke simply become emotional and resort to personal
attacks.

That depends on their personality, but this is often true.

Yeah, you're always blowing smoke, but you don't, do ya?

But then again, what would you know about personality, you've never had one.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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John Smith writes:

I fail to see how a 90-degree clearing turn would not have brought the
threat into view and provided an escape to resolve the TCAS warning.

Civilian pilots are not normally taught how to recognize and evade
"threats."

Like you would know ANYTHING about civilian pilots, dumb ass.

On Jul 14, 11:50*am, John Smith wrote:

I fail to see how a 90-degree clearing turn would not have brought the
threat into view and provided an escape to resolve the TCAS warning.

Because if my TCAS is saying something behind me is going to hit me
the last thing a reasonable person would do it turn around to look at
it. Civilian pilots aren't trained to engage threats, we're trained to
avoid them.

-Robert

On Jul 14, 8:04*am, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:

Bull ****. Then I suppose you won't mind if the Army sends a squad out
to do target practice with M-16s in your back yard as long as they don't
hit your house.

Similarly I wonder what the military would think if I entered a MOA
and started chasing their Hueys around with my Mooney. Hey, its non
hazardous right? What's the big deal?

-Robert