Even the SCOTUS is fed up with Bush's nonsense.

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"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
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Extensions aren't mandatory, nor has one been used for any CSA since
1964,
including during Vietnam.

Picky...picky...picky! Admiral Vern Clark, our present Chief of Naval
Operations, is presently serving on a two year extension to his four year
term
of office.

An extension which occurred AFTER the time frame of the argument in
question.

It doesn't matter one bit, for the purposes of this discussion,
whether the flag officer concerned is a Naval officer or an Air Force
officer or
an Army officer. If an extension is available to one of them during an
undeclared war, it's available to all of the others.

Apparently not. Get over it.


Under those
circumstances, you may not think he was fired, but I'd bet a bucket of
warm spit
that Shinseki thinks he was.

Yes, please tell us what Shinseki thinks. Perhaps a link to his opinion
would help.

A flag officer I know thinks he was and, further,
says that most flag officers see it that way.

So you differ with them.....but they made flag rank and you and I made
what???

I know the definition of "fired" and he doesn't fit it.

Are you trying to tell us that you know how those things work better
than
the
ones who are directly involved? If so, then I give up because I can't
argue
with such arrogance.

Speaking of arrogance . . .

I do give up. You surely are convinced that you know more about it than
they
do. Oh, well.....

No, just more than YOU.



George Z.

"Ragnar" wrote in message
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Are you trying to tell us that you know how those things work better
than
the ones who are directly involved? If so, then I give up because I
can't
argue with such arrogance.

Speaking of arrogance . . .

I do give up. You surely are convinced that you know more about it than
they do. Oh, well.....

No, just more than YOU.

A lot of people know more about a lot of things than I do, and I'd be the first
to admit it, so saying that you know more about anything than I do isn't saying
much. AAMOF, you need to get at the end of the line.

However, it was nice of you to admit by inference that you DON'T know more about
this situation than do our serving flag officers. Before you start arguing
about that, let me remind you that when I said "You surely are convinced that
you know more about it than they do", you denied it (your actual words were
"No, just more than YOU"). Thank you for making my point for me, which was that
they do indeed know more about it than you or I, and one of them assured me that
my version accurately reflected their understanding of how things work in this
administration. You don't have to like it, or to think it's fair....that's just
the way it is regardless of your opinion.

George Z.

"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
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"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
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Are you trying to tell us that you know how those things work
better
than
the ones who are directly involved? If so, then I give up because
I
can't
argue with such arrogance.

Speaking of arrogance . . .

I do give up. You surely are convinced that you know more about it
than
they do. Oh, well.....

No, just more than YOU.

A lot of people know more about a lot of things than I do, and I'd be the
first
to admit it, so saying that you know more about anything than I do isn't
saying
much. AAMOF, you need to get at the end of the line.

However, it was nice of you to admit by inference that you DON'T know more
about
this situation than do our serving flag officers. Before you start
arguing
about that, let me remind you that when I said "You surely are convinced
that
you know more about it than they do", you denied it (your actual words
were
"No, just more than YOU"). Thank you for making my point for me, which
was that
they do indeed know more about it than you or I, and one of them assured
me that
my version accurately reflected their understanding of how things work in
this
administration. You don't have to like it, or to think it's
fair....that's just
the way it is regardless of your opinion.


Thank you for admitting I was right and you were wrong. Nice to know that.

"Ragnar" wrote in message
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"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
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"Ragnar" wrote in message
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"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
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Are you trying to tell us that you know how those things work
better
than
the ones who are directly involved? If so, then I give up because
I
can't
argue with such arrogance.

Speaking of arrogance . . .

I do give up. You surely are convinced that you know more about it
than
they do. Oh, well.....

No, just more than YOU.

A lot of people know more about a lot of things than I do, and I'd be the
first
to admit it, so saying that you know more about anything than I do isn't
saying
much. AAMOF, you need to get at the end of the line.

However, it was nice of you to admit by inference that you DON'T know more
about
this situation than do our serving flag officers. Before you start
arguing
about that, let me remind you that when I said "You surely are convinced
that
you know more about it than they do", you denied it (your actual words
were
"No, just more than YOU"). Thank you for making my point for me, which
was that
they do indeed know more about it than you or I, and one of them assured
me that
my version accurately reflected their understanding of how things work in
this
administration. You don't have to like it, or to think it's
fair....that's just
the way it is regardless of your opinion.


Thank you for admitting I was right and you were wrong. Nice to know that.

You still have it bass ackwards, but if that's what it takes to make you happy,
be my guest. You may know more than I do about a lot of things, but you don't
know squat about life among the flag ranks.

George Z.

"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
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"Ragnar" wrote in message
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"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
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"Ragnar" wrote in message
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"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
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Are you trying to tell us that you know how those things work
better
than
the ones who are directly involved? If so, then I give up
because
I
can't
argue with such arrogance.

Speaking of arrogance . . .

I do give up. You surely are convinced that you know more about
it
than
they do. Oh, well.....

No, just more than YOU.

A lot of people know more about a lot of things than I do, and I'd be
the
first
to admit it, so saying that you know more about anything than I do
isn't
saying
much. AAMOF, you need to get at the end of the line.

However, it was nice of you to admit by inference that you DON'T know
more
about
this situation than do our serving flag officers. Before you start
arguing
about that, let me remind you that when I said "You surely are
convinced
that
you know more about it than they do", you denied it (your actual
words
were
"No, just more than YOU"). Thank you for making my point for me,
which
was that
they do indeed know more about it than you or I, and one of them
assured
me that
my version accurately reflected their understanding of how things work
in
this
administration. You don't have to like it, or to think it's
fair....that's just
the way it is regardless of your opinion.


Thank you for admitting I was right and you were wrong. Nice to know
that.

You still have it bass ackwards, but if that's what it takes to make you
happy,
be my guest. You may know more than I do about a lot of things, but you
don't
know squat about life among the flag ranks.

I DO know the definition of "fired", and you don't.

Ragnar wrote:
"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
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You still have it bass ackwards, but if that's what it takes to make you
happy, be my guest. You may know more than I do about a lot of things, but
you don't know squat about life among the flag ranks.

I DO know the definition of "fired", and you don't.

I think I've outgrown the "nyah, nyah....I know more than you do" childishness
so I'll let you have the last word. You're so much smarter than I am that I
don't know why you bothered talking to me in the first place. U smart....me
dum! Happy now, sonny?

George Z.

Greasy Rider @ Invalid.com wrote in message . ..
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It's easier to admire the silent type than one who opens his
mouth and promptly sticks his foot in it.


I too hope that GWB holds another press conference this year,
preferably befor the election.

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Greasy Rider @ Invalid.com wrote in message . ..
... It's easier to admire the silent type than one who opens his
mouth and promptly sticks his foot in it.

I too hope that GWB holds another press conference befor
the election...

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"Ragnar" wrote in message ...

Now Art shows his lack of credibility. Even the UN admits that Iraq
had
loads of WMD.

.....in the '80s.

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And you still don't know the difference between a program and a weapon.

Riiiight. And I suppose Saddam dropped a "program" on the Kurds and
Iranians.

In the 1980's he attacked Iran in an unprovoked war of aggression
and the Reagan administration provided him with satellite recon data.
In the 1980's he used Chemical Weapons made from precursor chmicals
imported from the US against Iran and Reagan sent the US Navy into
the Persian Gulf to protect his shipping. In the 1980s He used
chemical weapons against the Kurds and the reagan administration loaned
him nearly 2 billion dollars.

Funny, those pictures and medical reports sure looked like nerve
and mustard gas. Guess them "programs" are dangerous after all.


As noted above, in the 1980's.

As you evidently have forgotten we fought a war against our former
ally and Poppa Bush's, Ronald Reagan's and Rumsfeld's good buddy
Saddam Hussein and destroyed his remaining stockpiles of chemical
weapons and his production facilites.

You're as bad at history, as Baby Bush is with geography.

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"Brett" wrote in message ...

Actually he did, regime change in Iraq was a policy Clinton agreed and guess
what he even ordered attacks on that country.

What did you do during the mid to late 1990's? Did you spend most of it
asleep?

I do recall Clinton attacking AL Queada assets in the Sudan and in
Afghanistan. I also recall the attacks beign widely condemned
by Repubicans. Good thing he kept it a secret that he had
rescinded Carter's ban on assasination and marked Bin Laden for
death. The Republicans might have added that to the articles of
impeachment...

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