Cessna sued for skydiving accident.

Matt W. Barrow wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Matt W. Barrow wrote:
Lawyers are, by their very nature of the job, persuasive. Do you think
they can't persuade some grieving or naive party that they have been
"harmed" to a proper extent?

Hell, look at the poverty pimps and similar ner-do-wells.



I once had a lawyer tell me that the TRUE mark of a lawyers ability can be
shown by that lawyer's ability to argue first the plaintiff's side of the
case, then the defendent's side of the same case....and win BOTH times!

So much for the justice part of the legal equation! Let's hear it for
SALESMANSHIP!!!! :-))

And now you know why so many stopped calling it the "Justice System" and now
refer to it as the "Legal System". It's all in "gaming the system".



Actually I've known this for a VERY long time :-)))

--
Dudley Henriques

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:31:54 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow"
wrote:


Now, iof she is willing to take
on a class of 36,000,000 students, we're all set.

I'll get back to you. G

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:29:31 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow"
wrote:

Many times an "F" is deserved.

I totally agree.

As many times the teacher would have also
gotten an "F". When they gave math teachers the same math tests, the average
grade was 60%, with 70% being a failing grade. It's nearly the rule, rather
than the exception.

I'd like to read that. Where did you see it? Remember, teaching
programs and educational requirements vary greatly from state to
state.

Would it make schools less likely to
spread Global Warming bull****?

I'm with ya' there.

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 00:35:02 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:


So what is your beef, then?


With people who forget that education is a partnership bewteen a
school and the parent.

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Matt W. Barrow" wrote

Then grab your butt.

(I'll not wait for more of Morgan's adolesant alibis.)

You should really learn how to post, because most of what your post
attributed to Jay were my words.

You don't have to worry about me responding to you on the subject of
education.

Your views are not worth my consideration, as they are so biased, and
worthless.

You should really consider going back to school at your private school, so
you could learn to spell adolescent, too.
--
Jim in NC

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istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas thought
slpeling was ipmorantt!

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:19:03 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow"
wrote:


"B A R R Y" wrote in message

I flew on a Caravan a few weeks back that certainly was equipped for
ice.

Long underwear and a parka around the airframe?


Pretty much! G

Boots on the lifting surfaces, struts, prop, cargo pod leading edges,
and an inertial intake separator. The plane was also placarded on
the panel for imitations in operations in ice.

Since there seems to be so much disagreement, I wonder if some of the
icing tools are optional.

Roy Smith wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:

I once had a lawyer tell me that the TRUE mark of a lawyers ability can
be shown by that lawyer's ability to argue first the plaintiff's side of
the case, then the defendent's side of the same case....and win BOTH times!

And why are you surprised? A lawyer is a mercenary. A hired gun. A tool.
I don't expect my lawyer to base their performance on whether they like me
or believe in me any more than I expect my drill press or my laptop to do
so.

You assume surprise. Trust me....there is none! I merely make the
distinction between a lawyer self portrayed as a "protector of the
people" which is the projected ethical intent and the lawyer as he/she
actually exists; a glorified and educated used car salesman par
excellence, selling services to the highest bidder and raping clients
and the public at large by their actions.


--
Dudley Henriques

On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:55:00 -0500, B A R R Y
wrote:

Boots on the lifting surfaces, struts, prop, cargo pod leading edges,
and an inertial intake separator. The plane was also placarded on
the panel for imitations in operations in ice.

Sorry... LIMITATIONS.

B A R R Y wrote in
:

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 00:35:02 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:


So what is your beef, then?


With people who forget that education is a partnership bewteen a
school and the parent.


And that is the fault of the schools how?

Bertie

On Dec 2, 4:37 pm, Peter Clark
wrote:

The Cessna Model 208 and 208B Pilot's Operating Handbook (POH) and
FAA-approved Airplane Flight Manual (AFM)Supplement S1 "Known Icing
Euipment" begs to differ.

Does it? I haven't seen one, but another paragraph in the
Transport Canada document hints that flight (of suitably equipped
airplanes) into known ice is still legal:

"2) Exercise caution when dispatching into, or operating in forecast
or known icing conditions along an intended route. Use all available
resources (weather forecast, Air Traffic Services, PIREPS, etc.) to
ascertain the presence of icing conditions. Reports of icing
conditions should be considered to be prohibitive where those
conditions meet or exceed the definition of moderate or greater icing
conditions for the Cessna Caravan C208 airplanes as defined in
applicable ADs, AFMs and AMOCs."

As a Canadian AME I work with TC frequently and am aware that
they are often considerably more conservative than the FAA. If flight
into known ice was illegal they'd sure say so. Further, the latest FAA
AD, 2007-10-15, dated May 17/07,says:

SUMMARY: The FAA is adopting a new airworthiness directive (AD) to
supersede AD 2006-06-
06, which applies to certain Cessna Aircraft Company (Cessna) Models
208 and 208B airplanes. AD
2006-06-06 currently requires you to incorporate information into the
applicable section of the
Airplane Flight Manual (AFM) and Pilot's Operating Handbook (POH) and
requires you to install
placards. Since we issued AD 2006-06-06, Cessna issued new S1 Known
Icing Equipment AFM
supplements and developed a low airspeed awareness system.
Consequently, this AD requires you to
incorporate the applicable AFM supplement revision and temporarily
retain the requirements of AD
2006-06-06 until the above revisions are incorporated. One of the AFM
requirements is the
installation of a functional low airspeed awareness system to operate
the airplane in known icing
conditions. We are issuing this AD to assure that the pilot has enough
information and the necessary
equipment to prevent loss of control of the airplane while in-flight
during icing conditions.

Now, unless the FAA or Cessna has removed the known-icing
certification since May, I can't see that the Caravan isn't certified
for known ice. Might not be wise, perhaps, but there it is.

Regards,
Dan