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OT NY Times Story on Pilot Population Decline
The US health care system is indeed very bad especially in terms of
cost. Its ironic that a major reason for this is the absence of a free market in the medical sector. Actually, I think the source is from elsewhere. Medical insurance in its various guises removes the connection between the buyer and the seller. It was first offered as a perq, in lieu of salary, by big corporations who could get a bargain on it (that is, they could offer it more cheaply than individuals could get it themselves, thus it was an attractive perq). This spread too far, and took over the medical system. I hear this is happening to law now too. Jose -- Get high on gasoline: fly an airplane. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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I am thankful that our nation is not littered with impoverished
seniors who failed to provide for their years of unemployability. Yes, but I do resent being the one to support them. Jose -- Get high on gasoline: fly an airplane. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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Maxwell wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Marco Leon writes: Yes, and yes. While I don't think that the reasons you mentioned are the primary reasons, I do think they play a part. Salaries are indeed higher but so are the housing prices. A "starter" house in Long Island, NY for example is around $450K. Paying for that mortgage while bringing up a family leaves little room to blow $7K on a year's worth of flight training. Forty years ago, a "starter" house might cost 1.5 times the annual salary of a person in the middle class. Now it may cost ten times the annual salary of such a person (although the middle class is disappearing). Then someone is buying way too much house! I like to watch these "Flip this House". I would call them entry level homes (1100 sq ft) and they can go for $400,000 in LA, SFO area. I am not sure saleries are up there for the young starting out. My kids bought 40+ year old homes in the Fayetteville, AR area and I was amazed how much they had to spend - getting close to $100K and these were in the 1300 sq ft range. They are not lawyers or engineers. -- Regards, Ross C-172F 180HP KSWI |
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B A R R Y wrote:
ktbr wrote: If it is such a great retirement program why is everyone forced to participate? Not everyone is. My wife is a member of a teacher's retirement plan and is exempt from SS contributions. Teacher's unions are a large lobby and can get special treatment from politicians. |
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Larry Dighera wrote:
Regardless of what the people believe, they are the beneficiaries, not large corporations. You talk as if these Corportations are an "evil". What is a Corportation Larry? It is a publicly owned company or business that employes people, pays them a salary and benefirs. It is owned by people... stockholders who are by and large participating by virtue of pention and 401K plans. They count on Corportations doing and making profits so that their stock will go up and thus, they can enjoy a decent return on their investment. For some reason you disdain the idea of a company making mony... or even worse that any profits they make should be somewho turned over to tge government for dispersal to people you think "need" it. That's a very sad vision of a free country you have. |
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... I am thankful that our nation is not littered with impoverished seniors who failed to provide for their years of unemployability. That's swell, but do you choose to contribute to Social Security, or are you forced? |
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
If it is required by the government it is a tax. If anyone gets more out of it than they put into it is a income redistribution welfare program. When taken together about 15% of every dime I have earned in my 30 years in the labor pool has been paid into SS & Medicare. If I had been allowed to keep that money and invest it in even a conservative investment I could retire right now, finish my airplane and never be in anyway a cost to society. The Social Security Administration is a terrible investment manager and Medicare is a mediocre health insurance policy at best. Amen brother. I too look longingly at that so called "statement" they send me every year... I can see the money that has been squandered on my behalf. Like you, had I been able to put that money into an account of my own I could retire today. The SS system has been running a "surplus" for many years (of course the uneeded money is simply spent) but if, in fact, that "extra" money colleceted were truly invested in securitities it would be a huge amount by now... and no "crisis" would be looming ahead. The Social Security Scam gets away doing things with peoples money that would result in people going to jail if done by private sector investment company. After all of this... Larry still thinks its a great idea. |
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Larry Dighera wrote:
We are getting pretty far a field here, but I believe it's fair to say, that Democrats' spending tends to benefit the people, and Republican spending tends to benefit large corporations. Corporations are owned by stockholders... individuals who invest through their retirement plans. They benefit when companies are successful and make profits. |
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:38:03 GMT, ktbr wrote in
: Larry Dighera wrote: I am not taxed for Social Security. I contribute into it. I don't recal [sic] ever being offered an option NIT [sic] to participate Larry. If it could I would drop it in a minute and manage it myself. If it is such a great retirement program why is everyone forced to participate? Of course, no one is _forced_ to participate, even in the US. It's only a condition of earning a wage in the US. ... What would happen if only those who were bad drivers could purchase automobile insurance? Do you think the premiums would be affordable in such a case? If you're opposed to SSI, are you also opposed to automobile, aircraft, life, and health insurance? If you are that concerned about all the poor idiots out there who are too lazy or stupid to manage their life (let alone their retirement) there are _thousands_ of charities that you can contribute to. That attitude is rather shortsighted, and totally out of place in today's global society. If you fail to bring the less fortunate up, you will not be happy with the consequences. Trust me. You don't live in isolation regardless of whether your home is situated behind the walls of a gated community or not. As the world population is predicted to double within the next fifty years, we're all going to have to adjust our tribal biases in order to coexist in the future. And where is your compassion for your fellow man? Are you so contemptuous of humanity, that you would condemn millions of innocent people to poverty just to save a few dollars? I hope not. Larry They are run generally much more efficiently than the government "charities" and have much less fraud. Social Security is not a charity; it is insurance. There is an inescapable loss of human dignity that occurs to those who receive charity. Social Security recipients can be proud of having worked hard during their lives, and owe no debt of gratitude to anyone other than the FDR administration. Educate yourself: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/edi...cial_security/ FDR believed that Social Security should be simple, guaranteed, fair, earned, and available to all Americans. President Roosevelt was adamant that Social Security was an insurance program to provide basic needs in retirement. Today, thanks in large part to Social Security, the number of older Americans below the poverty line has dropped from almost 50 percent to only 8 percent. |
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:18:39 -0400, Bob Noel
wrote in : In article , Larry Dighera wrote: We are getting pretty far a field here, but I believe it's fair to say, that Democrats' spending tends to benefit the people, and Republican spending tends to benefit large corporations. when using a strange definition of "benefit" for the people. Please try to communicate in complete sentences if you expect me to infer your meaning. Thanks. |
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