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Steve wrote:
Ok so you guys consider joining AOPA a must do. Definitely. George Patterson Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks. |
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"Steve" wrote in message
... Ok so you guys consider joining AOPA a must do. I was considering that but I didn't know if it was an organization worth it's salt. Although I did like the fact they offered a discount ticket for your introduction flight. Some people will disagree, but IMHO AOPA is worth the dues. The magazine alone is worth the dues, and membership gets you a lot more. As a member, I have asked for and received good advice on a variety of topics, from medical issues, to international flights, to aircraft purchasing, and more. They are also the primary lobbying organization for general aviation. It could be argued that they aren't very effective in all areas, but they do accomplish some things, and frankly it's not like there's any other group out there doing more than AOPA. I certainly feel like I get at least $40 worth of lobbying each year. As far as the discount for the first lesson goes though, that should be available whether or not you join. Most flight schools have a discounted introductory flight, and you can go to www.beapilot.com to find discounted intro flights near you. So, while I'd agree that AOPA is worth joining for any pilot, or for pilots-to-be, the discounted first flight isn't something that makes them unique, nor is it really much of a membership benefit. Pete |
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Ok so you guys consider joining AOPA a must do.
Yes. They're far from perfect, but they're the best we've got. And the magazine is outstanding. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:17:30 +0200, Stefan
wrote in :: Larry Dighera wrote: Actually, flying is a bit more than a hobby ... flying is a life and death matter after all. As are many hobbies ... not to mention driving a car. I wouldn't characterize driving a car as a hobby, unless perhaps it's on a race track. There are those hobbies, such as rock climbing, SCUBA diving, even sailing, that are potentially life and death matters, but they don't demand the public to extend their trust for their participation as does aviation. That is why I feel it is important for airmen to act responsibly and prudent in the air and in public. |
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Montblack wrote:
[Flying lessons - buying your own jet] [snip] * Fly and hour per day 4-5-6 days per week. * Take some glider training for fun. Get some tailwheel time as well. In fact, consider doing it sooner rather than later. Chris (Who promptly after cruising through the CFI ride got his ass kicked by a Luscombe while his 26,000 hour mentor sat in the right seat laughing his ass off) |
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Steve wrote: I'm considering taking up flying as a hobby. It's something I've been wanting to do since I was a kid. The ultimate goal is to learn how to fly lear jets or should I say private light jets. What flight training classes would I have to take and how many hrs would I have to perform. I can pretty much fly as many times a week as necessary to get the training my job schedule is highly flexible. I have noticed that most courses run from 5 to 7 k. To get a private pilots license. But what would it take to have the licensing to fly a lear. And can those courses be taken right after getting my PPL. I saw where I could get a PPL for 8,000 and get instrument training for another 6,000. Is there another course needed to fly a lear and can all the classes be taken concurrently. You do not fly jets as a hobby unless you have almost unlimited wealth. Nevertheless, there are some people who do fly jets as a hobby. The majority of them fly decommissioned military aircraft, but there are some Lear pilots and others. You will spend a minimum of $75,000 getting all the certificates and ratings, including a type rating for a Lear, but that is just the beginning of it. You will have to build up the hours (over a period of years, probably) to be acceptable to an insurer. After that, figure a good $1300 per hour for operating cost of the Lear. You will also have to pay another pilot to fly with you, as most Lears are not certified for single pilot operation. Even if you find one that is, your insurer will probably make you fly with another pilot anyway. It is not that jets are difficult to fly -- the typical military throttle jock does not have very much flying experience, especially at the beginning -- but they require considerable support and infrastructure. Their high speeds require more planning and an ability to think far ahead of the airplane. The military guy may not have flown a lot, but he does make a full time job of studying how to fly his airplane. Heck, if I could just guarantee that I had the fuel and insurance concessions, I could probably give jets away for free and still make money. Maybe an exaggeration, but not that much of one. Just remember, it is not the type of airplane that you fly that makes you a good pilot. There are bad pilots flying all kinds of good airplanes. It is training and experience that make you a good pilot. |
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Here is a picture of a bad pilot who was flying what appeared to be a
perfectly good plane. http://www.seeitornot.faketrix.com/crash-pics-7.htm |
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Skylune wrote:
Here is a picture of a bad pilot who was flying what appeared to be a perfectly good plane. http://www.seeitornot.faketrix.com/crash-pics-7.htm I remember that picture. IIRC, he got caught in wake turbulence on take-off. Just very unlucky. The plane was fine after they used a crane to get it (and him) off the lines a few hours later. Kev |
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"Skylune" wrote in message lkaboutaviation.com... Here is a picture of a bad pilot who was flying what appeared to be a perfectly good plane. http://www.seeitornot.faketrix.com/crash-pics-7.htm It's kind of hard to put a lot of faith in a website called faketrix |
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