Presidential TFR @ Kill Devil Hills

in article et, Steven P.
McNicoll at wrote on 12/16/03 8:24 PM:


"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message
...

http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/document.htm

The documents on this page aren't totally conclusive, but it would appear
from the available evidence that Mr. Bush was AWOL.


So now I just have to sort through those documents to find support for your
position?

I really don't care what you do. Why do you look to me for direction?

Actually, I don't really have a "position" in regards to this issue. I
noticed it had been brought up, and a 10-second Google search found the
above link. There's some interesting information there, for anyone with the
initiative to spend a nanosecond or two on it.

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:03:17 -0600 "Matthew P. Cummings" wrote:

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:27:50 -0800, R. Hubbell wrote:

next president will be more enlightened. And keep up the pressure on
how silly they are in the press and support AOPA.

I got news for you, AOPA doesn't care about you and I and our flying
freedoms. I know of an aircraft that was in the process of being stolen
and the local police let the guy go. The owner called AOPA to let them
know how well this new system was working and they basically told him that
they didn't care and to take it up with someone else.

So you see, AOPA doesn't really care about silly rules unless it affects
them I suppose. They certainly aren't trying to maintain a list of
failures that they could then suggest better ways of doing things.
Homeland security is a joke and the AOPA doesn't care.



I got news for you. AOPA is not in charge of enforcing the laws. If the
police let the guy go, take it up with the police.



R. Hubbell

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:07:05 -0700 "Tom Sixkiller" wrote:


"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
news:7oGDb.18330$pY.11414@fed1read04...
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:05:39 GMT Dave S wrote:

Ok.. at the risk of interrupting the partisanship here...

What makes you think that if the next prez is a Democrat that the SS..
er Secret Service will not still insist on a 60 mile diameter bubble?


You're really trying to spoil all the fun! We can only hope that the
next president will be more enlightened.

Not unless we gat an alien being from another planet in the race.

There is one already, a.k.a. the incumbent, but he's not enlightened.



R. Hubbell

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:12:49 GMT, Philip Sondericker
wrote:

Are you able to cite a single instance of CNN, ABC, et al ever calling the
President "dumb"?

"He lacks gravitas"

Rob

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:53:58 GMT Bob Noel wrote:

In article KtGDb.18366$pY.5656@fed1read04, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

He was flying F-102s.

Hours logged as PIC? Where's the bragging and the boasting? Military
pilots
wear their logged hours as a badge of honor.

what nonsense.

Which part, you mean that he was PIC in F-102s? I am beginning to believe that
too.


R. Hubbell


--
Bob Noel

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:53:28 GMT Bob Noel wrote:

In article qsGDb.18357$pY.9524@fed1read04, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

He flew F-102 supersonic jet interceptors, on active duty in the USAF
and later in the Texas Air Guard.

How many hours did he log as PIC? Most pilots brag about that, in fact
most
consider that to be the defining metric.

what military pilots do you hang around with? I've never
met a military pilot that brags about hours.


Brag is probably the wrong word but number of hours is a metric that gets
tossed around a bit. But never heard any mention of Dubya's hours as
PIC.


R. Hubbell


--
Bob Noel

CD

You could white wash your numbers and have at it.

Where there's a will, there's a way.

It's a way to protest stupidity.

Big John


On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 06:06:06 -0500, Cub Driver
wrote:


What would happen if 500 GA birds showed up towing banners saying "Go
home Mr presiden, we want to fly"?

Do you think they have enough F-16's and weapons to shoot down them

Perhaps not, but the FAA probably has enough bureaucrats to pull the
certificates on 500 pilots.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email:

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

Bob

Good catch. I put the salutation in lower case and incomplete spelling
to show my feelings for the stupidly.

Big John.

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:07:38 GMT, Bob Noel
wrote:

In article , Big John
wrote:

What would happen if 500 GA birds showed up towing banners saying "Go
home Mr presiden, we want to fly"?

they'd get flamed for the spelling errors?

;-)

"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message
...

I really don't care what you do. Why do you look to me for direction?


I'm not looking to you for direction. You said Bush's Guard service was not
honorable, I asked you what you found dishonorable about it. Instead of
answering you posted a web address.



Actually, I don't really have a "position" in regards to this issue. I
noticed it had been brought up, and a 10-second Google search found the
above link. There's some interesting information there, for anyone with
the
initiative to spend a nanosecond or two on it.


If you want to establish any credibility in these forums you have to support
your own assertions.

"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message
...
in article et, Steven
P.
McNicoll at wrote on 12/16/03 8:24 PM:


"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message
...

http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/document.htm

The documents on this page aren't totally conclusive, but it would
appear
from the available evidence that Mr. Bush was AWOL.


So now I just have to sort through those documents to find support for
your
position?

I really don't care what you do. Why do you look to me for direction?

Actually, I don't really have a "position" in regards to this issue. I
noticed it had been brought up, and a 10-second Google search found the
above link. There's some interesting information there, for anyone with
the
initiative to spend a nanosecond or two on it.

Well, when you make a claim, it's up to you to support it. Further, it's up
to you to find ALL RELEVANT information, including that info that refutes
your position if it's available.

In this case, such information IS available. So, now it's up to you; let's
see how much of a mature man you really are.