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"Dave Stadt" wrote:

"Dave Buckles" wrote in message
news:AsJfc.7906$55.1601@lakeread02...
David Brooks wrote:
Easy way to remember. Take the three pairs of words:
left, right
port, starboard
red, green

The shorter words go together, and the longer words go together. You
could
probably add:
pilot, passenger (or pilot, instructor)

Alternatively:
"Red" and "Right" both start with the same letter. It would sort of
make sense for them to be the same side. Since we're dealing with the
FAA, we can't have *that* sort of logic running around, so switch 'em.

"Red", "right", "returning" works. It refers to keeping the red bouys on
the right when returning to a harbor. (simplified explanation) Doesn't do
much good in an airplane but the boat people did use some logic.

That only really works in Bouyage Region B, i.e. roughly the US and its
imperial dependencies :-). Doesn't do much good in the majority of the
maritime world, where keeping red bouys on the right while entering a
port or channel would be exactly the wrong thing to do.

You don't know how odd it was for me when I first sailed the Chesapeake
after a lifetime of sailing in Australia and elsewhere, where keeping
red to red is the absolute rule on entering a channel or port...

Hamish

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message om...

"Red", "right", "returning" works. It refers to keeping the red bouys on
the right when returning to a harbor. (simplified explanation) Doesn't do
much good in an airplane but the boat people did use some logic.

That one works if you're talking about the lights on an airplane ahead of you.

Here are a few of my memory jogs :

Which color light is on which side - Reds are leftists.
Port and starboard - Starboard has 2 Rs, so it's on the right.
Cruising alitudes - Easterners are odd (I live in the west :-)).

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

Since we are no longer sticking to the original thread.....

If for some reason you need to tie the colors, sides, and rights-of-way
together, try this for night flying:

If on your starboard red appears,
It is your duty to keep clear.
If green to port you should see,
There's not so much for you to do
for green to port keeps clear of you.

[The true mariners amongst you will immediately recognize this is a crippled
version of the original ditty. This version is shorter and easier, I think,
to remember.]

"John Galban" wrote in message
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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"Red", "right", "returning" works. It refers to keeping the red bouys
on
the right when returning to a harbor. (simplified explanation) Doesn't
do
much good in an airplane but the boat people did use some logic.

That one works if you're talking about the lights on an airplane ahead
of you.

Here are a few of my memory jogs :

Which color light is on which side - Reds are leftists.
Port and starboard - Starboard has 2 Rs, so it's on the right.
Cruising alitudes - Easterners are odd (I live in the west :-)).

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

The important thing to remember is if you see a red light you give way.
Boats or airplanes it works.
Another jog is.....left port.....as in the boat left port.

Doug Vetter wrote in message . net...

When he saw my CFI certificate, he just remarked "oh, you're a CFI,
eh?". "Yup" I said. I don't know if it was just me, but after that he
seemed a bit more friendly and casual. Perhaps having a CFI certificate
is a lot like having a PBA card when pulled over for speeding... :-)

Why did you pull out your CFI certificate when he just needed your
pilot certificate?

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 06:04:28 -0400, Cub Driver
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 06:48:35 GMT, Roger Halstead
wrote:

Why would any one care?

Because port remains the same, whereas "left" changes depending on
whether you're inside the plane (and if inside, whether you're facing
fore or aft) or outside propping it, for example.

To me, it matters not if I'm in or out, the pilot's side is the left
side of the plane. When I look at a plane be it from front or rear
port and left are always the same for the airplane, to me.

I've been flying for many years and never new which side was port or
starboard...although it used to be larboard and starboard.


How many times have you noted that the prop turns left (as seen from
the pilot's seat)? The prop turns to port. (Unless you;re British, of
course

No...It turns clockwise or counterclockwise...er...anticlockwise.

That's like the question, which rudder pedal do you push on to counter
the torque on climb out. "Which ever one makes it go straight". :-))

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Port wine is red.

It's not how I remember it, but it might help some.

Jose

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Roger Halstead wrote:

...although it used to be larboard and starboard.

You're old enough to remember when they called it *that*? Wow!!!

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".

port, left, and red...have less letters then starboard, right, and green

Teacherjh wrote:

Port wine is red.

It's not how I remember it, but it might help some.

Jose

Dave Buckles wrote:

"Red" and "Right" both start with the same letter. It would sort of
make sense for them to be the same side. Since we're dealing with the
FAA, we can't have *that* sort of logic running around, so switch 'em.

Consider:

You're a-flyin' along at night, and you see, ahead of you, a flashing
beacon, with solid green on the left, solid red on the right, and the
gap between the two lights is slowly growing.

Red. Right. Returning. (yeah, it doesn't quite translate to aviation,
'cause you have to think of "returning" being equal to "bearing down
on ya")

You better bank right yourself, *now*, or that guy's gonna take you
out.

Be safe out there,

Rob