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Old November 5th 04, 04:05 AM
Jay Honeck
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What say the Republicans in here? Can we look forward to smaller
government
and a balanced budget?


I wish -- but now is not the time.

Maybe after the war?
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old November 4th 04, 02:33 AM
Bob Fry
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Sure, whatever. Actually, it reminds me of this joke a friend sent
the other day about how War was averted between Ireland and France.
Seems that Paddy down at the Harp Pub in County Sligo, Ireland, called
Jacques Chirac, The French Prime Minister, and

Oh the heck with it. I have no heart for the partisan crap at the
moment.

Actually I've been thinking about a two-week trip we just got back
from visiting New England. Saw an old friend, made 3 new friends
including a new-found "aunt" in Gloucester, learned how the natives
pronounce Newburyport, got up to Montreal....fantastic trip. Great
Autumn colors and local characters. Wanted to rent a plane for a bit
but weather and time did not permit. God (oops, can I use his name in
this context) I really want to fly around New England. I'm gonna make
a true cross-country trip out there in a year or two in my Aircoupe.
Yep, gotta do it.

Anyway I got back to North California and to warm up the oil flew from
the Central Valley (Davis) to Truckee in the Sierra Nevadas. Great
California fall day...snow in the mountains, visibility well over 100
miles. I could see the far distant Coast Range from over Truckee.

And I was thinking, what a great time and place to live. To be a
pilot--me, Joe Schmuck--to be able to hop into my personal little
Pudhopper, and fly when and where I want. To dream, realistically,
about flying across this country. To personally know a pilot who flew
his Coupe from Barrow Alaska to Key West Florida, and another who flew
his Coupe to the four farthest airports in the continental US corners.

To live in a country where, by design, our leaders come and go,
instead of sticking around and really doing damage. What a privilege
eh? I'll bet there are millions of people around the world who would
literally give their left arm to take my place, or anybody's place in
this group.

So good on ya mate. Next week I'll bitch about Dubya's latest
screwup, but not today. Today I ordered East and West full sectional
coverage from Howie Keefe so I can start figuring out places to go and
things to see. Today, I turn off the talking heads, and think and
dream.
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Old November 4th 04, 04:01 AM
Jay Honeck
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To live in a country where, by design, our leaders come and go,
instead of sticking around and really doing damage. What a privilege
eh? I'll bet there are millions of people around the world who would
literally give their left arm to take my place, or anybody's place in
this group.


Well put, Bob!

We do, indeed, live in wondrous times, and in a wonderful country.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old November 5th 04, 05:57 AM
Andrew Sarangan
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in news:nQhid.53372$R05.50592
@attbi_s53:

To live in a country where, by design, our leaders come and go,
instead of sticking around and really doing damage. What a privilege
eh? I'll bet there are millions of people around the world who would
literally give their left arm to take my place, or anybody's place in
this group.


Well put, Bob!

We do, indeed, live in wondrous times, and in a wonderful country.


Yes, but those wonderous times have a strong correlation with the economic
indicators. Ask almost anyone from India why they would like to move to the
U.S. It is not because of our democracy, religious tolerance. racial
tolerance, or social values. It is because of money. In almost every other
measure of an advanced society, we fall seriously behind countries like
Canada and western Europe. There are scholars who believe that our voting
system is worse than in some third world countries. Yes, we live in a great
country, but we need to understand why we are so great, and fix the areas
that are not so great. Despite all our greatness, we too can make mistakes.
What separates the men from the boys is the ability to admit when a mistake
is made, and take steps to fix it. Just blindly cheering that we are a
great country despite all the mistakes we continue to make is why the rest
of the world think we are so arrogant and ignorant.



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Old November 5th 04, 01:26 PM
Corky Scott
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On 4 Nov 2004 23:57:47 -0600, Andrew Sarangan
wrote:

Despite all our greatness, we too can make mistakes.
What separates the men from the boys is the ability to admit when a mistake
is made, and take steps to fix it.


Mistakes? The current government makes mistakes? Like what? They
have not admitted any, have they?

Corky Scott
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Old November 5th 04, 02:05 PM
alexy
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Corky Scott wrote:

On 4 Nov 2004 23:57:47 -0600, Andrew Sarangan
wrote:

Despite all our greatness, we too can make mistakes.
What separates the men from the boys is the ability to admit when a mistake
is made, and take steps to fix it.


Mistakes? The current government makes mistakes? Like what? They
have not admitted any, have they?

Corky Scott


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Old November 7th 04, 11:48 PM
bryan chaisone
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:nQhid.53372$R05.50592@attbi_s53...
To live in a country where, by design, our leaders come and go,
instead of sticking around and really doing damage. What a privilege
eh? I'll bet there are millions of people around the world who would
literally give their left arm to take my place, or anybody's place in
this group.


Well put, Bob!

We do, indeed, live in wondrous times, and in a wonderful country.


here here. or is that hear hear?

Bryan
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Old November 4th 04, 04:03 PM
Journeyman
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In article , Bob Fry wrote:

screwup, but not today. Today I ordered East and West full sectional
coverage from Howie Keefe so I can start figuring out places to go and
things to see. Today, I turn off the talking heads, and think and
dream.



I used the Howie Keefe charts on a trip from Long Island Sound to
Puget sound (and back) this past summer. They're good for in-flight
finger-on-the-map. They're not so good for for strategic planning.

As a supplement, I had a map from (ach, ptth) Sporty's that covered
the entire U.S. We knew roughly how many inches per day we could
do, looked for likely places in range, and angled norther or souther
depending on what the weather was doing.

It really helped to have the Big Picture on one chart.

Good luck. It's an incredible trip.


Morris (dissatified Sporty's customer)
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Old November 4th 04, 03:51 AM
Andrew Sarangan
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Speaking purely as an aviator, I am happy to see an end to all the TFR's
that have been ravaging my home town (Dayton, Ohio). Every time Bush came,
several dozen airports were shutdown, often with little advance notice. We
have an airport every 20 miles, so the impact was significant. It really
felt like a police state. You have to give it to Kerry that he declined
TFRs. That is a very aviation-relevant point in favor of Kerry.




"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:ke7id.350687$MQ5.178085@attbi_s52:

Now that it appears that George Bush has been re-elected with a true
majority of the popular vote (the first president to do so in 16
years), let me be the first to extend an olive branch to those here
who may be disappointed in the results.

What has made America strong, and allowed our democracy to thrive for
over 200 years, is our ability to embrace the loyal opposition on
election day. We, as pilots, may be just as divided politically as the
rest of the country, but where we differ from the common electorate is
in our shared love of aviation.

This bond, in my opinion, transcends any fleeting election
disagreements, and I, for one, will be more than happy to see all this
animosity evaporate, so that we can get back to the fun of talking
about flying!

Blue skies, all!


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Old November 4th 04, 07:15 AM
Brien K. Meehan
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Now that it appears that George Bush has been re-elected with a true
majority of the popular vote (the first president to do so in 16

years), let
me be the first to extend an olive branch to those here who may be
disappointed in the results.


.... and in true form, the disappointed have taken your olive branch and
tried to beat you with it.

 




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