How safe is it, really?

"Back_To_Flying" wrote:
He is in more danger of dying in a car crash on the way to the airport.
Driving is still the most dangerous activity we humans do.

Utter BS.

He is in more danger of dying in a car crash on the way to the airport.
Driving is still the most dangerous activity we humans do.

Utter BS.

Ok, unlike you I have done some research on this then . Driving is the
leading cause of death for American drivers between 15 - 20 years of age.
Here is my source http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/041018-3.htm

I have also seen a few more reports concluding the same. So one could
conclude that driving is still much more dangerous than flying regardless of
age group. Do you have proof of the opposite? Then show me your source.

Richard


"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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"Back_To_Flying" wrote:

== Back To Flying Back_To_Flying writes:

He is in more danger of dying in a car crash on the way to the airport.
Driving is still the most dangerous activity we humans do.

Utter BS.

Ok, unlike you I have done some research on this then . Driving is the
leading cause of death for American drivers between 15 - 20 years of age.
Here is my source http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/041018-3.htm

I have also seen a few more reports concluding the same. So one could
conclude that driving is still much more dangerous than flying regardless
of age group. Do you have proof of the opposite? Then show me your source.

I don't think anyone disputes that GA flying isn't particularly dangerous to
those who don't participate in it.

yeesh.

dan.

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Dan Girellini wrote:

I don't think anyone disputes that GA flying isn't particularly dangerous
to those who don't participate in it.

Well...some nuts see aircraft falling from the sky. But amongst sane
people, you're right. That's the problem with just comparing numbers like
accidents or fatalities w/o also looking at number of pilots/drivers, miles
travelled, time spent en route, and so on.

- Andrew

"Back_To_Flying" wrote

Ok, unlike you I have done some research on this then . Driving is the
leading cause of death for American drivers between 15 - 20 years of age.

Stating an argument like that, shows you have little to no grasp of
statistics.

Everyone (nearly) drives. Everyone does not fly.

Still, I agree that flying is an acceptable risk for the careful. If you
suppress your loved one's urge to fly, he will end up resenting it, and
possibly you, too. (to the original poster) Do you want to take the chance
of not having him in your life, because of that?
--
Jim in NC


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"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Back_To_Flying" wrote

Ok, unlike you I have done some research on this then . Driving is the
leading cause of death for American drivers between 15 - 20 years of
age.

Stating an argument like that, shows you have little to no grasp of
statistics.

Everyone (nearly) drives. Everyone does not fly.

Still, I agree that flying is an acceptable risk for the careful. If you
suppress your loved one's urge to fly, he will end up resenting it, and
possibly you, too. (to the original poster) Do you want to take the
chance
of not having him in your life, because of that?
--
Jim in NC

Wife or flying ill tell her to pack her bags and show her the door. Flying
is a real addiction!!! to some!

Morgans wrote:
"Back_To_Flying" wrote
Ok, unlike you I have done some research on this then . Driving is the
leading cause of death for American drivers between 15 - 20 years of age.
Stating an argument like that, shows you have little to no grasp of
statistics.

Everyone (nearly) drives. Everyone does not fly.

Well over 90% of all deaths occur in bed. Seems to be the single
most dangerous place to be.

Stay away from them ! ;o)

Cheers CV

"Back_To_Flying" wrote
I have also seen a few more reports concluding the same. So one could
conclude that driving is still much more dangerous than flying
regardless of age group. Do you have proof of the opposite? Then show
me your source.

The current issue of "Flying" magazine addresses the issue and
provides the documentation that they used.
As I recall, their conclusion was that flying presented 200-300
times the risk that driving did, contrary to what we have all
been led to believe.

Bob Moore

Bob Moore wrote:

"Back_To_Flying" wrote

I have also seen a few more reports concluding the same. So one could
conclude that driving is still much more dangerous than flying
regardless of age group. Do you have proof of the opposite? Then show
me your source.


The current issue of "Flying" magazine addresses the issue and
provides the documentation that they used.
As I recall, their conclusion was that flying presented 200-300
times the risk that driving did, contrary to what we have all
been led to believe.

That seems like a very high ratio. This comparison of fatality
rates per million hours of a wide variety of activities puts the
ratio at a little over 30 to 1:
http://www.magma.ca/~ocbc/comparat.html
based on a study by a group that develops risk models for the
insurance industry.
But the relatively high risk per hour is mitigated by the fact
that even avid GA pilots won't usually fly for as many hours as
avid motorists (or motorcyclists) given practical constraints like
cost, availability, and convenience.
As others have mentioned the statistical figures such as those
given above from Failure Analysis Assoc. necessarily lump together
pilots with very different abilities and risk-aversion. But even
based on this statistical average risk you could fly for an hour
every day from age 20 to age 70 and your chances of dying from
an aviation accident would still only be about one in four.

I completely agree. NOT safe. Dangerous!

I've been flying for 40 years. I can count at least 30 people I knew who are
dead from flying light aircraft.

I know of only one friend who died in a car accident. And I know hundreds of
times the people who drive rather than fly.

Looks about right to me. 200-300 times more dangerous to fly than drive.

Every time that happen I always wish that I could have been there, just to
say---NO, it's not a good day. Or, John Jr., level the wings! ( I met John
Jr.) Or, lets stop here for gas and spend the night. I am forever being
chicken to fly in certain conditions, and the older I get the chickener I
get! Also, I carry 150 pounds of survival gear. That's why I need a Skywagon
to carry it all.

Karl "curator" N185KG
ATP BE30, CE-500, LR-JET, DA-50

"Bob Moore" wrote in message
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"Back_To_Flying" wrote
I have also seen a few more reports concluding the same. So one could
conclude that driving is still much more dangerous than flying
regardless of age group. Do you have proof of the opposite? Then show
me your source.

The current issue of "Flying" magazine addresses the issue and
provides the documentation that they used.
As I recall, their conclusion was that flying presented 200-300
times the risk that driving did, contrary to what we have all
been led to believe.

Bob Moore