Checkride Checklist Question

"Any DEs out there - what would you say to a student who does this on a
PPL checkride ?"
I did it on a check ride, it did not turn out well......

I grew up in Alaska.
I had my PPSES, PP glider and 200 or so hours when I went away to college
While in college I went to the local FBO to get PPSEL.
I took the checkride in a Tomahawk.

On the Short field part of the landing test I was a little hot/high.
so I put the flaps up and did a hard slip , put the flaps back down
and landed exactly on the spot at exactly the correct speed with minimal roll out.

I think the slip scared the DE.
The DE immediatly announced You Fail!

So we taxied back to the FBO.

The DE proclaimed that slips are prohibited in a T Hawk.
When he was writing up my fail slip I pointed out that the POH clearly says
slips are permitted with the flaps up.
I'd memorized the POH from cover to cover in preperation for the checkride.

At this point steam was comming out of his ears and
he tore up the fail slip and wrote me a pass slip without
finishing the check ride.

All of this happened 25 years ago
I was a 21 year old college student with an attitude,
not the way I'd reccomend passing a checkride.

My experience is that the DE will fail you, but you will get your PPL anyway ;-)


Paul

P.S. That was my last flight ever in the tramua hawk, what a horrible airplane.

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"Any DEs out there - what would you say to a student who does this on a
PPL checkride ?"
I did it on a check ride, it did not turn out well......

I grew up in Alaska.
I had my PPSES, PP glider and 200 or so hours when I went away to college
While in college I went to the local FBO to get PPSEL.
I took the checkride in a Tomahawk.

On the Short field part of the landing test I was a little hot/high.
so I put the flaps up and did a hard slip , put the flaps back down
and landed exactly on the spot at exactly the correct speed with minimal roll out.

I think the slip scared the DE.
The DE immediatly announced You Fail!

So we taxied back to the FBO.

The DE proclaimed that slips are prohibited in a T Hawk.
When he was writing up my fail slip I pointed out that the POH clearly says
slips are permitted with the flaps up.
I'd memorized the POH from cover to cover in preperation for the checkride.

At this point steam was comming out of his ears and
he tore up the fail slip and wrote me a pass slip without
finishing the check ride.

All of this happened 25 years ago
I was a 21 year old college student with an attitude,
not the way I'd reccomend passing a checkride.

My experience is that the DE will fail you, but you will get your PPL anyway ;-)


Paul,

That's hilarious! Terrific story, thanks!

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John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

One of my club's instructors told me this morning that a DE just failed
one of his ATP students for taxiing too fast.

john smith wrote:

One of my club's instructors told me this morning that a DE just failed
one of his ATP students for taxiing too fast.

Any idea how fast he was taxiing?

Matt

john smith wrote:
One of my club's instructors told me this morning that a DE just
failed one of his ATP students for taxiing too fast.

Matt Whiting wrote:
Any idea how fast he was taxiing?

No, it was speculated that the DE was just having a bad day.

john smith wrote:

john smith wrote:

One of my club's instructors told me this morning that a DE just
failed one of his ATP students for taxiing too fast.


Matt Whiting wrote:

Any idea how fast he was taxiing?


No, it was speculated that the DE was just having a bad day.

Sounds like it. Maybe he hadn't met his quota for pink slips for the month.

Matt

Get in the habit of ALWAYS using a paper check-list. Keep
your thumb on each item until that item is confirmed. This
is what the PROS do.

The pros more often than not have another guy sitting there so they can
run a proper challenge-response style checklist. Those of us who fly
single pilot have to make compromises, and not always being able to run
the checklist except from memory or via flow patterns is one of
those.........

#1ACGuy wrote:
I would reccommend pulling it out when he fails your engine. It's easy to
forget something with all the excitement and nervousness you're likely to
have on a checkride. Most other stuff is easy enough to remember.
Tecnically they are supposed to note that you use the appropriate checklist.
Alex



Get in the habit of ALWAYS using a paper check-list. Keep your thumb on
each item until that item is confirmed. This is what the PROS do.
Getting out the list when you are distracted sounds nice, but then you
have the added distraction of finding the paper list.

If you are distracted due to an emergency and miss items on your check
list, you will now have additional distractions. All you have to do is
land with the gear up ONE TIME, and you will go back to the paper check
list. Don't ask me how I know.

Rule number one is FLY THE PLANE. After you have it in a stable glide and
are flying towards your chosen landing site, then get your checklist out. IF
you have time! Part of the test is to see that you make good descisions
under changing circumstances. Your DE would rather see you stay cool and
land the plane than get distracted with the checklist and not make the
field.

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Hello, my name is Mike, and I am an airplane addict....