About Good Pilots and Bad Pilots

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
The 121 pilots have a full support staff to help with flight
planning and a crew to bring and serve the coffee. The 135
charter pilot has the best and worst job, gets paid to fly
pretty good airplanes but has to carry the luggage, do all
the flight planning, brew and serve the coffee, and clean
the potty.

Essentially accurate, although you've selected the grandest of 121 for
comparison against the worst of 135 (Pt 121 freighters don't have anyone to
prepare your meals or coffee, and I've flown for excellent Pt 135 airlines
that used canned flight plans and had people to load the luggage, even on
planes so small they had no coffeemaker or head). Having done both, I can
see this, but others may be misled. The overarching point is that your
earlier comments were unconnected. In my earlier post, I acknowledged that
my good dose of good luck had a lot to do with "...professional airline
maintenance staff and required routine maintenance...", to which you replied
with cautions about owners not allowing mechanics to fix things due to
expense, etc., etc. These things can and do occur among the amateurs and
the lower order of commercial operators, but I think my post was pretty
clear in that I was referring to the airline environment.

Truth is, whether government or airlines, or just the repair
station on the field, maintenance depends on budget and
ethics. Some people won't spend the money and have no
ethics.
Scheduled 121 and 135 are one type of operation, on-demand
135 is another. Part 91 owner flown and part 91
professionally flown is also another. A owner with
knowledge, perhaps a pilot perhaps not is one thing, an
owner with only money and a cheap shop without ethics may be
very happy with his airplane [ for a while] but the cost of
an airplane and the quality of a mechanic, pilot or other,
depends on everybody really doing their job at the highest
possible standard.

Just to tell you about one incident I was personally
involved with years ago... a part 135 mail/freight operator
with a Beech 58 Baron put his airplane in our heated hanger
to remove about 2 inches of ice from the storm that had gone
through over night. I saw the airplane in the hanger and a
quick external check showed these conditions...
The rubber on the tail deice boots was gone, just fabric
left, both sides.
The deice boots on the wings had many large holes and tears
The left engine cowling was burned and warped from the heat
of the fire, there was oil dripping from the cowling and it
appeared to have been on burned.
The anti-ice elements on the props were partially detached.
Tires were flat spotted with cord showing.

The plane left that night even though the FAA did see it,
but the FAA went home at 4:30.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
. ..
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| The 121 pilots have a full support staff to help with
flight
| planning and a crew to bring and serve the coffee. The
135
| charter pilot has the best and worst job, gets paid to
fly
| pretty good airplanes but has to carry the luggage, do
all
| the flight planning, brew and serve the coffee, and
clean
| the potty.
|
| Essentially accurate, although you've selected the
grandest of 121 for
| comparison against the worst of 135 (Pt 121 freighters
don't have anyone to
| prepare your meals or coffee, and I've flown for excellent
Pt 135 airlines
| that used canned flight plans and had people to load the
luggage, even on
| planes so small they had no coffeemaker or head). Having
done both, I can
| see this, but others may be misled. The overarching point
is that your
| earlier comments were unconnected. In my earlier post, I
acknowledged that
| my good dose of good luck had a lot to do with
"...professional airline
| maintenance staff and required routine maintenance...", to
which you replied
| with cautions about owners not allowing mechanics to fix
things due to
| expense, etc., etc. These things can and do occur among
the amateurs and
| the lower order of commercial operators, but I think my
post was pretty
| clear in that I was referring to the airline environment.
|
|

Jim Macklin wrote:
I've been lucky or smooth, never had anybody mess up the
cockpit. Did have one student who came out to fly and
brought his sister along for the ride, a dual cross-country
from Wichita to Emporia, Marion, Newton and back to Wichita.
About half way to Emporia they both became ill. Seems they
had stopped for hamburgers for lunch and both also were not
feeling well before take-off.



I had a teenager get sick on me once in a C-210. I saw him looking kind of
green around the gills, then he started leaning over my charts. "Oh no you
don't!". I snatched my charts away just in time. He ended up puking into the
emergency gear extension well located between the two front seats. After we
landed, I made him clean it out, then I went looking for some Ozium... which is
great stuff for getting ride of the lovely bouquet of fresh steaming emesis.

The only time I myself got queasy was sitting in the back seat of an Arrow while
somebody else was flying. I didn't disgrace myself but I wasn't comfortable
either. I've always thought it was because I wasn't in control myself.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

I was of course a civilian pilot flying and demonstrating military airplanes
and in some cases doing research on one thing or another flying by
invitation of the Navy and some foreign governments.
My "given" call sign was "Sparrow", but my wife one day at a JC dinner
happened to pass on to a few of the Thunderbirds what the family called me
around the house. I'm afraid I've been "Baron Von Leftover" ever since!
:-))
Dudley Henriques

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:bTmKf.100900$4l5.42145@dukeread05...
I'm sure that's true. BTW, where you Studly Dudley or
Dudley DoRight?


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in
message
ink.net...
| There's nothing that will get you talked about quicker at
squadron ops than
| puking into your mask :-))
| DH
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:KkmKf.100448$4l5.36@dukeread05...
| I remember reading an article, about Jacques Yves
Cousteau
| in the National Geographic. There was a mention of a
diver
| getting sick at about 200 feet below the surface who
threw
| up into his Aqua-Lung filling both of the hoses that
| connected to the regulator. This was before the
addition of
| check valves in the breathing tubes.
|
| I've had some real good chili and or BBQ at airports in
OK
| and TX.
|
|
| "Dudley Henriques" wrote in
| message
|
k.net...
| | Brings back memories :-)
| | I've always wondered about those so called $100
hamburger
| flights. Actually,
| | for me in the Mustang, or occasionally in the Bearcat,
| those burgers were a
| | bit more expensive :-)
| | If I remember right, most of those airport hamburgers
| bought at those little
| | "airport cafe's on the fields were grilled and
dripping
| with grease. Just
| | the thing to settle the old stomach down for a weekend
| pilot. Add this to
| | the stress of a hot cockpit on a summer day and a new
| pilot getting "just a
| | little bit lost " on the way home and it's a wonder
more
| people didn't end
| | up puking in the seat pockets :-))
| | We had a bevy of line boys who were supposed to take
care
| of things like
| | that, but it seems to me remembering back now, that
every
| damn time it
| | happened, I was the only one on the scene to take care
of
| it :-))
| | Dudley Henriques
| |
| | "Jim Macklin"
wrote
| in message
| | news:mslKf.100257$4l5.75119@dukeread05...
| | I've been lucky or smooth, never had anybody mess up
the
| | cockpit. Did have one student who came out to fly
and
| | brought his sister along for the ride, a dual
| cross-country
| | from Wichita to Emporia, Marion, Newton and back to
| Wichita.
| | About half way to Emporia they both became ill.
Seems
| they
| | had stopped for hamburgers for lunch and both also
were
| not
| | feeling well before take-off.
| | I had plenty (?) of sic-sacks and they used them.
When
| we
| | got to Emporia we threw the used bags in the trash
ands
| | bought all the sic-sacks they had at the airport, 4
to
| | restock the airplane. We also took a while to
settle
| down.
| | But half way to Marion the hamburgers took over
again
| and
| | shortly they had used all four new bags. Then they
| still
| | got ill because of the smell. She dumped the
aircraft
| | paperwork in the seat pocket at my instruction and
used
| the
| | zip lock portfolio and he used the right hand pocket
of
| his
| | NEW sports coat.
| | I, being the superior pilot/CFI with a nose used to
| | shoveling horse droppings and even some pigs [I was
a
| "pile
| | it" , before I became an aviator] was able to resist
the
| | need for myself. And the smell is still in my
nostrils.
| |
| | hen I was learning to be a CFI, I asked my friend
and
| | instructor at Spartan (Auggie) how to handle air
sick
| | students and was told that in the Cessna 150-172
| airplanes,
| | open the window and stick their head outside. Never
had
| to
| | do that.
| |
| | BTW, that student is now an FAA Inspector
| |
| |
| | --
| | James H. Macklin
| | ATP,CFI,A&P
| |
| | --
| | The people think the Constitution protects their
rights;
| | But government sees it as an obstacle to be
overcome.
| | some support
| | http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| | See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and
| duties.
| |
| |
| |
| | "Dudley Henriques" wrote
in
| | message
| |
|
.net...
| | |
| | | "Jim Macklin"

| wrote
| | in message
| | | news:nnkKf.100060$4l5.33181@dukeread05...
| | | big ----- deal, also BFH = big hammer, tfc too
cold
| | |
| | | The 121 pilots have a full support staff to help
| with
| | flight
| | | planning and a crew to bring and serve the
coffee.
| The
| | 135
| | | charter pilot has the best and worst job, gets
paid
| to
| | fly
| | | pretty good airplanes but has to carry the
luggage,
| do
| | all
| | | the flight planning, brew and serve the coffee,
and
| | clean
| | | the potty.
| | |
| | | .................not to mention the cockpit vomit,
| which
| | is a smell that
| | | never really leaves the airplane, and I can still
| mentally
| | visualize to this
| | | very day .
| | | :-))))))))))))))))
| | | Dudley Henriques
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

Maybe we should get paid extra to , never mind, money
doesn't fix the problems with airsick passengers and
students. Yep, Ozium.


"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| I've been lucky or smooth, never had anybody mess up the
| cockpit. Did have one student who came out to fly and
| brought his sister along for the ride, a dual
cross-country
| from Wichita to Emporia, Marion, Newton and back to
Wichita.
| About half way to Emporia they both became ill. Seems
they
| had stopped for hamburgers for lunch and both also were
not
| feeling well before take-off.
|
|
|
| I had a teenager get sick on me once in a C-210. I saw
him looking kind of
| green around the gills, then he started leaning over my
charts. "Oh no you
| don't!". I snatched my charts away just in time. He
ended up puking into the
| emergency gear extension well located between the two
front seats. After we
| landed, I made him clean it out, then I went looking for
some Ozium... which is
| great stuff for getting ride of the lovely bouquet of
fresh steaming emesis.
|
| The only time I myself got queasy was sitting in the back
seat of an Arrow while
| somebody else was flying. I didn't disgrace myself but I
wasn't comfortable
| either. I've always thought it was because I wasn't in
control myself.
|
|
|
| --
| Mortimer Schnerd, RN
|
| VE
|
|

Is that grounds for divorce?

My brother called me El Lardo De Fats when we were kids, now
he's 61 years old, 5'10" and about 250 lbs. while I'm 60
next week, 5'11" and 200 lbs even. Sometimes I use
Capt.Kerosene, sometimes I'm John Galt, most of the time I'm
just Jim Macklin, never Jimmy.


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in
message
k.net...
|I was of course a civilian pilot flying and demonstrating
military airplanes
| and in some cases doing research on one thing or another
flying by
| invitation of the Navy and some foreign governments.
| My "given" call sign was "Sparrow", but my wife one day at
a JC dinner
| happened to pass on to a few of the Thunderbirds what the
family called me
| around the house. I'm afraid I've been "Baron Von
Leftover" ever since!
| :-))
| Dudley Henriques
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:bTmKf.100900$4l5.42145@dukeread05...
| I'm sure that's true. BTW, where you Studly Dudley or
| Dudley DoRight?
|
|
| "Dudley Henriques" wrote in
| message
|
ink.net...
| | There's nothing that will get you talked about quicker
at
| squadron ops than
| | puking into your mask :-))
| | DH
| |
| | "Jim Macklin"
wrote
| in message
| | news:KkmKf.100448$4l5.36@dukeread05...
| | I remember reading an article, about Jacques Yves
| Cousteau
| | in the National Geographic. There was a mention of
a
| diver
| | getting sick at about 200 feet below the surface who
| threw
| | up into his Aqua-Lung filling both of the hoses that
| | connected to the regulator. This was before the
| addition of
| | check valves in the breathing tubes.
| |
| | I've had some real good chili and or BBQ at airports
in
| OK
| | and TX.
| |
| |
| | "Dudley Henriques" wrote
in
| | message
| |
|
k.net...
| | | Brings back memories :-)
| | | I've always wondered about those so called $100
| hamburger
| | flights. Actually,
| | | for me in the Mustang, or occasionally in the
Bearcat,
| | those burgers were a
| | | bit more expensive :-)
| | | If I remember right, most of those airport
hamburgers
| | bought at those little
| | | "airport cafe's on the fields were grilled and
| dripping
| | with grease. Just
| | | the thing to settle the old stomach down for a
weekend
| | pilot. Add this to
| | | the stress of a hot cockpit on a summer day and a
new
| | pilot getting "just a
| | | little bit lost " on the way home and it's a
wonder
| more
| | people didn't end
| | | up puking in the seat pockets :-))
| | | We had a bevy of line boys who were supposed to
take
| care
| | of things like
| | | that, but it seems to me remembering back now,
that
| every
| | damn time it
| | | happened, I was the only one on the scene to take
care
| of
| | it :-))
| | | Dudley Henriques
| | |
| | | "Jim Macklin"

| wrote
| | in message
| | | news:mslKf.100257$4l5.75119@dukeread05...
| | | I've been lucky or smooth, never had anybody
mess up
| the
| | | cockpit. Did have one student who came out to
fly
| and
| | | brought his sister along for the ride, a dual
| | cross-country
| | | from Wichita to Emporia, Marion, Newton and back
to
| | Wichita.
| | | About half way to Emporia they both became ill.
| Seems
| | they
| | | had stopped for hamburgers for lunch and both
also
| were
| | not
| | | feeling well before take-off.
| | | I had plenty (?) of sic-sacks and they used
them.
| When
| | we
| | | got to Emporia we threw the used bags in the
trash
| ands
| | | bought all the sic-sacks they had at the
airport, 4
| to
| | | restock the airplane. We also took a while to
| settle
| | down.
| | | But half way to Marion the hamburgers took over
| again
| | and
| | | shortly they had used all four new bags. Then
they
| | still
| | | got ill because of the smell. She dumped the
| aircraft
| | | paperwork in the seat pocket at my instruction
and
| used
| | the
| | | zip lock portfolio and he used the right hand
pocket
| of
| | his
| | | NEW sports coat.
| | | I, being the superior pilot/CFI with a nose used
to
| | | shoveling horse droppings and even some pigs [I
was
| a
| | "pile
| | | it" , before I became an aviator] was able to
resist
| the
| | | need for myself. And the smell is still in my
| nostrils.
| | |
| | | hen I was learning to be a CFI, I asked my
friend
| and
| | | instructor at Spartan (Auggie) how to handle air
| sick
| | | students and was told that in the Cessna 150-172
| | airplanes,
| | | open the window and stick their head outside.
Never
| had
| | to
| | | do that.
| | |
| | | BTW, that student is now an FAA Inspector
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | James H. Macklin
| | | ATP,CFI,A&P
| | |
| | | --
| | | The people think the Constitution protects their
| rights;
| | | But government sees it as an obstacle to be
| overcome.
| | | some support
| | | http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| | | See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights
and
| | duties.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | "Dudley Henriques"
wrote
| in
| | | message
| | |
| |
|
.net...
| | | |
| | | | "Jim Macklin"
|
| | wrote
| | | in message
| | | | news:nnkKf.100060$4l5.33181@dukeread05...
| | | | big ----- deal, also BFH = big hammer, tfc
too
| cold
| | | |
| | | | The 121 pilots have a full support staff to
help
| | with
| | | flight
| | | | planning and a crew to bring and serve the
| coffee.
| | The
| | | 135
| | | | charter pilot has the best and worst job,
gets
| paid
| | to
| | | fly
| | | | pretty good airplanes but has to carry the
| luggage,
| | do
| | | all
| | | | the flight planning, brew and serve the
coffee,
| and
| | | clean
| | | | the potty.
| | | |
| | | | .................not to mention the cockpit
vomit,
| | which
| | | is a smell that
| | | | never really leaves the airplane, and I can
still
| | mentally
| | | visualize to this
| | | | very day .
| | | | :-))))))))))))))))
| | | | Dudley Henriques
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

Nah :-) We're at 40 years now and counting. My wife is greatly appreciative
of a good sense of humor. So were the Thunderbirds that year. They all knew
and loved my wife. She laid that out there knowing that the camaraderie we
shared with the team would be, (and has remained) a lifetime thing.
Even today all of us get a big kick out of remembering that night at the
dinner table.
Don't worry, I got even. One of the guys' wife was and is a world class
baker. He showed up the next day with a tray of hot biscuits. To this day,
his call sign around here is "Muffin"....just the thing for an Air Force
Fighter pilot :-))
Dudley Henriques

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:4brKf.101336$4l5.72356@dukeread05...
Is that grounds for divorce?

My brother called me El Lardo De Fats when we were kids, now
he's 61 years old, 5'10" and about 250 lbs. while I'm 60
next week, 5'11" and 200 lbs even. Sometimes I use
Capt.Kerosene, sometimes I'm John Galt, most of the time I'm
just Jim Macklin, never Jimmy.


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in
message
k.net...
|I was of course a civilian pilot flying and demonstrating
military airplanes
| and in some cases doing research on one thing or another
flying by
| invitation of the Navy and some foreign governments.
| My "given" call sign was "Sparrow", but my wife one day at
a JC dinner
| happened to pass on to a few of the Thunderbirds what the
family called me
| around the house. I'm afraid I've been "Baron Von
Leftover" ever since!
| :-))
| Dudley Henriques
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:bTmKf.100900$4l5.42145@dukeread05...
| I'm sure that's true. BTW, where you Studly Dudley or
| Dudley DoRight?
|
|
| "Dudley Henriques" wrote in
| message
|
ink.net...
| | There's nothing that will get you talked about quicker
at
| squadron ops than
| | puking into your mask :-))
| | DH
| |
| | "Jim Macklin"
wrote
| in message
| | news:KkmKf.100448$4l5.36@dukeread05...
| | I remember reading an article, about Jacques Yves
| Cousteau
| | in the National Geographic. There was a mention of
a
| diver
| | getting sick at about 200 feet below the surface who
| threw
| | up into his Aqua-Lung filling both of the hoses that
| | connected to the regulator. This was before the
| addition of
| | check valves in the breathing tubes.
| |
| | I've had some real good chili and or BBQ at airports
in
| OK
| | and TX.
| |
| |
| | "Dudley Henriques" wrote
in
| | message
| |
|
k.net...
| | | Brings back memories :-)
| | | I've always wondered about those so called $100
| hamburger
| | flights. Actually,
| | | for me in the Mustang, or occasionally in the
Bearcat,
| | those burgers were a
| | | bit more expensive :-)
| | | If I remember right, most of those airport
hamburgers
| | bought at those little
| | | "airport cafe's on the fields were grilled and
| dripping
| | with grease. Just
| | | the thing to settle the old stomach down for a
weekend
| | pilot. Add this to
| | | the stress of a hot cockpit on a summer day and a
new
| | pilot getting "just a
| | | little bit lost " on the way home and it's a
wonder
| more
| | people didn't end
| | | up puking in the seat pockets :-))
| | | We had a bevy of line boys who were supposed to
take
| care
| | of things like
| | | that, but it seems to me remembering back now,
that
| every
| | damn time it
| | | happened, I was the only one on the scene to take
care
| of
| | it :-))
| | | Dudley Henriques
| | |
| | | "Jim Macklin"

| wrote
| | in message
| | | news:mslKf.100257$4l5.75119@dukeread05...
| | | I've been lucky or smooth, never had anybody
mess up
| the
| | | cockpit. Did have one student who came out to
fly
| and
| | | brought his sister along for the ride, a dual
| | cross-country
| | | from Wichita to Emporia, Marion, Newton and back
to
| | Wichita.
| | | About half way to Emporia they both became ill.
| Seems
| | they
| | | had stopped for hamburgers for lunch and both
also
| were
| | not
| | | feeling well before take-off.
| | | I had plenty (?) of sic-sacks and they used
them.
| When
| | we
| | | got to Emporia we threw the used bags in the
trash
| ands
| | | bought all the sic-sacks they had at the
airport, 4
| to
| | | restock the airplane. We also took a while to
| settle
| | down.
| | | But half way to Marion the hamburgers took over
| again
| | and
| | | shortly they had used all four new bags. Then
they
| | still
| | | got ill because of the smell. She dumped the
| aircraft
| | | paperwork in the seat pocket at my instruction
and
| used
| | the
| | | zip lock portfolio and he used the right hand
pocket
| of
| | his
| | | NEW sports coat.
| | | I, being the superior pilot/CFI with a nose used
to
| | | shoveling horse droppings and even some pigs [I
was
| a
| | "pile
| | | it" , before I became an aviator] was able to
resist
| the
| | | need for myself. And the smell is still in my
| nostrils.
| | |
| | | hen I was learning to be a CFI, I asked my
friend
| and
| | | instructor at Spartan (Auggie) how to handle air
| sick
| | | students and was told that in the Cessna 150-172
| | airplanes,
| | | open the window and stick their head outside.
Never
| had
| | to
| | | do that.
| | |
| | | BTW, that student is now an FAA Inspector
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | James H. Macklin
| | | ATP,CFI,A&P
| | |
| | | --
| | | The people think the Constitution protects their
| rights;
| | | But government sees it as an obstacle to be
| overcome.
| | | some support
| | | http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| | | See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights
and
| | duties.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | "Dudley Henriques"
wrote
| in
| | | message
| | |
| |
|
.net...
| | | |
| | | | "Jim Macklin"
|
| | wrote
| | | in message
| | | | news:nnkKf.100060$4l5.33181@dukeread05...
| | | | big ----- deal, also BFH = big hammer, tfc
too
| cold
| | | |
| | | | The 121 pilots have a full support staff to
help
| | with
| | | flight
| | | | planning and a crew to bring and serve the
| coffee.
| | The
| | | 135
| | | | charter pilot has the best and worst job,
gets
| paid
| | to
| | | fly
| | | | pretty good airplanes but has to carry the
| luggage,
| | do
| | | all
| | | | the flight planning, brew and serve the
coffee,
| and
| | | clean
| | | | the potty.
| | | |
| | | | .................not to mention the cockpit
vomit,
| | which
| | | is a smell that
| | | | never really leaves the airplane, and I can
still
| | mentally
| | | visualize to this
| | | | very day .
| | | | :-))))))))))))))))
| | | | Dudley Henriques
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

At least your nick name wasn't Cuddles.


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in
message
nk.net...
| Nah :-) We're at 40 years now and counting. My wife is
greatly appreciative
| of a good sense of humor. So were the Thunderbirds that
year. They all knew
| and loved my wife. She laid that out there knowing that
the camaraderie we
| shared with the team would be, (and has remained) a
lifetime thing.
| Even today all of us get a big kick out of remembering
that night at the
| dinner table.
| Don't worry, I got even. One of the guys' wife was and is
a world class
| baker. He showed up the next day with a tray of hot
biscuits. To this day,
| his call sign around here is "Muffin"....just the thing
for an Air Force
| Fighter pilot :-))
| Dudley Henriques
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:4brKf.101336$4l5.72356@dukeread05...
| Is that grounds for divorce?
|
| My brother called me El Lardo De Fats when we were kids,
now
| he's 61 years old, 5'10" and about 250 lbs. while I'm 60
| next week, 5'11" and 200 lbs even. Sometimes I use
| Capt.Kerosene, sometimes I'm John Galt, most of the time
I'm
| just Jim Macklin, never Jimmy.
|
|
| "Dudley Henriques" wrote in
| message
|
k.net...
| |I was of course a civilian pilot flying and
demonstrating
| military airplanes
| | and in some cases doing research on one thing or
another
| flying by
| | invitation of the Navy and some foreign governments.
| | My "given" call sign was "Sparrow", but my wife one
day at
| a JC dinner
| | happened to pass on to a few of the Thunderbirds what
the
| family called me
| | around the house. I'm afraid I've been "Baron Von
| Leftover" ever since!
| | :-))
| | Dudley Henriques
| |
| | "Jim Macklin"
wrote
| in message
| | news:bTmKf.100900$4l5.42145@dukeread05...
| | I'm sure that's true. BTW, where you Studly Dudley
or
| | Dudley DoRight?
| |
| |
| | "Dudley Henriques" wrote
in
| | message
| |
|
ink.net...
| | | There's nothing that will get you talked about
quicker
| at
| | squadron ops than
| | | puking into your mask :-))
| | | DH
| | |
| | | "Jim Macklin"

| wrote
| | in message
| | | news:KkmKf.100448$4l5.36@dukeread05...
| | | I remember reading an article, about Jacques Yves
| | Cousteau
| | | in the National Geographic. There was a mention
of
| a
| | diver
| | | getting sick at about 200 feet below the surface
who
| | threw
| | | up into his Aqua-Lung filling both of the hoses
that
| | | connected to the regulator. This was before the
| | addition of
| | | check valves in the breathing tubes.
| | |
| | | I've had some real good chili and or BBQ at
airports
| in
| | OK
| | | and TX.
| | |
| | |
| | | "Dudley Henriques"
wrote
| in
| | | message
| | |
| |
|
k.net...
| | | | Brings back memories :-)
| | | | I've always wondered about those so called
$100
| | hamburger
| | | flights. Actually,
| | | | for me in the Mustang, or occasionally in the
| Bearcat,
| | | those burgers were a
| | | | bit more expensive :-)
| | | | If I remember right, most of those airport
| hamburgers
| | | bought at those little
| | | | "airport cafe's on the fields were grilled and
| | dripping
| | | with grease. Just
| | | | the thing to settle the old stomach down for a
| weekend
| | | pilot. Add this to
| | | | the stress of a hot cockpit on a summer day
and a
| new
| | | pilot getting "just a
| | | | little bit lost " on the way home and it's a
| wonder
| | more
| | | people didn't end
| | | | up puking in the seat pockets :-))
| | | | We had a bevy of line boys who were supposed
to
| take
| | care
| | | of things like
| | | | that, but it seems to me remembering back now,
| that
| | every
| | | damn time it
| | | | happened, I was the only one on the scene to
take
| care
| | of
| | | it :-))
| | | | Dudley Henriques
| | | |
| | | | "Jim Macklin"
|
| | wrote
| | | in message
| | | | news:mslKf.100257$4l5.75119@dukeread05...
| | | | I've been lucky or smooth, never had anybody
| mess up
| | the
| | | | cockpit. Did have one student who came out
to
| fly
| | and
| | | | brought his sister along for the ride, a
dual
| | | cross-country
| | | | from Wichita to Emporia, Marion, Newton and
back
| to
| | | Wichita.
| | | | About half way to Emporia they both became
ill.
| | Seems
| | | they
| | | | had stopped for hamburgers for lunch and
both
| also
| | were
| | | not
| | | | feeling well before take-off.
| | | | I had plenty (?) of sic-sacks and they used
| them.
| | When
| | | we
| | | | got to Emporia we threw the used bags in the
| trash
| | ands
| | | | bought all the sic-sacks they had at the
| airport, 4
| | to
| | | | restock the airplane. We also took a while
to
| | settle
| | | down.
| | | | But half way to Marion the hamburgers took
over
| | again
| | | and
| | | | shortly they had used all four new bags.
Then
| they
| | | still
| | | | got ill because of the smell. She dumped
the
| | aircraft
| | | | paperwork in the seat pocket at my
instruction
| and
| | used
| | | the
| | | | zip lock portfolio and he used the right
hand
| pocket
| | of
| | | his
| | | | NEW sports coat.
| | | | I, being the superior pilot/CFI with a nose
used
| to
| | | | shoveling horse droppings and even some pigs
[I
| was
| | a
| | | "pile
| | | | it" , before I became an aviator] was able
to
| resist
| | the
| | | | need for myself. And the smell is still in
my
| | nostrils.
| | | |
| | | | hen I was learning to be a CFI, I asked my
| friend
| | and
| | | | instructor at Spartan (Auggie) how to handle
air
| | sick
| | | | students and was told that in the Cessna
150-172
| | | airplanes,
| | | | open the window and stick their head
outside.
| Never
| | had
| | | to
| | | | do that.
| | | |
| | | | BTW, that student is now an FAA Inspector
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | James H. Macklin
| | | | ATP,CFI,A&P
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | The people think the Constitution protects
their
| | rights;
| | | | But government sees it as an obstacle to be
| | overcome.
| | | | some support
| | | |
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| | | | See http://www.fija.org/ more about your
rights
| and
| | | duties.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | "Dudley Henriques"

| wrote
| | in
| | | | message
| | | |
| | |
| |
|
.net...
| | | | |
| | | | | "Jim Macklin"
| |
| | | wrote
| | | | in message
| | | | | news:nnkKf.100060$4l5.33181@dukeread05...
| | | | | big ----- deal, also BFH = big hammer,
tfc
| too
| | cold
| | | | |
| | | | | The 121 pilots have a full support staff
to
| help
| | | with
| | | | flight
| | | | | planning and a crew to bring and serve
the
| | coffee.
| | | The
| | | | 135
| | | | | charter pilot has the best and worst
job,
| gets
| | paid
| | | to
| | | | fly
| | | | | pretty good airplanes but has to carry
the
| | luggage,
| | | do
| | | | all
| | | | | the flight planning, brew and serve the
| coffee,
| | and
| | | | clean
| | | | | the potty.
| | | | |
| | | | | .................not to mention the
cockpit
| vomit,
| | | which
| | | | is a smell that
| | | | | never really leaves the airplane, and I
can
| still
| | | mentally
| | | | visualize to this
| | | | | very day .
| | | | | :-))))))))))))))))
| | | | | Dudley Henriques
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:K8nKf.101008$4l5.24143@dukeread05...

Did I miss something somewhere, Jim? Why do you continue to belabor this
unrelated point? I offered kudos to the airline maintenance people that
contributed to my overall career safety, and you responded by commenting
that unscrupulous amateurs often scrimp on maintenance. Not only does this
have no bearing on my original comment, but it is a fact well known to all
that needs no further demonstration. What am I missing here?

God Forbid!! Careful, my wife might hear you!!
:-)
D

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
newsDvKf.101488$4l5.52883@dukeread05...
At least your nick name wasn't Cuddles.


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in
message
nk.net...
| Nah :-) We're at 40 years now and counting. My wife is
greatly appreciative
| of a good sense of humor. So were the Thunderbirds that
year. They all knew
| and loved my wife. She laid that out there knowing that
the camaraderie we
| shared with the team would be, (and has remained) a
lifetime thing.
| Even today all of us get a big kick out of remembering
that night at the
| dinner table.
| Don't worry, I got even. One of the guys' wife was and is
a world class
| baker. He showed up the next day with a tray of hot
biscuits. To this day,
| his call sign around here is "Muffin"....just the thing
for an Air Force
| Fighter pilot :-))
| Dudley Henriques
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:4brKf.101336$4l5.72356@dukeread05...
| Is that grounds for divorce?
|
| My brother called me El Lardo De Fats when we were kids,
now
| he's 61 years old, 5'10" and about 250 lbs. while I'm 60
| next week, 5'11" and 200 lbs even. Sometimes I use
| Capt.Kerosene, sometimes I'm John Galt, most of the time
I'm
| just Jim Macklin, never Jimmy.
|
|
| "Dudley Henriques" wrote in
| message
|
k.net...
| |I was of course a civilian pilot flying and
demonstrating
| military airplanes
| | and in some cases doing research on one thing or
another
| flying by
| | invitation of the Navy and some foreign governments.
| | My "given" call sign was "Sparrow", but my wife one
day at
| a JC dinner
| | happened to pass on to a few of the Thunderbirds what
the
| family called me
| | around the house. I'm afraid I've been "Baron Von
| Leftover" ever since!
| | :-))
| | Dudley Henriques
| |
| | "Jim Macklin"
wrote
| in message
| | news:bTmKf.100900$4l5.42145@dukeread05...
| | I'm sure that's true. BTW, where you Studly Dudley
or
| | Dudley DoRight?
| |
| |
| | "Dudley Henriques" wrote
in
| | message
| |
|
ink.net...
| | | There's nothing that will get you talked about
quicker
| at
| | squadron ops than
| | | puking into your mask :-))
| | | DH
| | |
| | | "Jim Macklin"

| wrote
| | in message
| | | news:KkmKf.100448$4l5.36@dukeread05...
| | | I remember reading an article, about Jacques Yves
| | Cousteau
| | | in the National Geographic. There was a mention
of
| a
| | diver
| | | getting sick at about 200 feet below the surface
who
| | threw
| | | up into his Aqua-Lung filling both of the hoses
that
| | | connected to the regulator. This was before the
| | addition of
| | | check valves in the breathing tubes.
| | |
| | | I've had some real good chili and or BBQ at
airports
| in
| | OK
| | | and TX.
| | |
| | |
| | | "Dudley Henriques"
wrote
| in
| | | message
| | |
| |
|
k.net...
| | | | Brings back memories :-)
| | | | I've always wondered about those so called
$100
| | hamburger
| | | flights. Actually,
| | | | for me in the Mustang, or occasionally in the
| Bearcat,
| | | those burgers were a
| | | | bit more expensive :-)
| | | | If I remember right, most of those airport
| hamburgers
| | | bought at those little
| | | | "airport cafe's on the fields were grilled and
| | dripping
| | | with grease. Just
| | | | the thing to settle the old stomach down for a
| weekend
| | | pilot. Add this to
| | | | the stress of a hot cockpit on a summer day
and a
| new
| | | pilot getting "just a
| | | | little bit lost " on the way home and it's a
| wonder
| | more
| | | people didn't end
| | | | up puking in the seat pockets :-))
| | | | We had a bevy of line boys who were supposed
to
| take
| | care
| | | of things like
| | | | that, but it seems to me remembering back now,
| that
| | every
| | | damn time it
| | | | happened, I was the only one on the scene to
take
| care
| | of
| | | it :-))
| | | | Dudley Henriques
| | | |
| | | | "Jim Macklin"
|
| | wrote
| | | in message
| | | | news:mslKf.100257$4l5.75119@dukeread05...
| | | | I've been lucky or smooth, never had anybody
| mess up
| | the
| | | | cockpit. Did have one student who came out
to
| fly
| | and
| | | | brought his sister along for the ride, a
dual
| | | cross-country
| | | | from Wichita to Emporia, Marion, Newton and
back
| to
| | | Wichita.
| | | | About half way to Emporia they both became
ill.
| | Seems
| | | they
| | | | had stopped for hamburgers for lunch and
both
| also
| | were
| | | not
| | | | feeling well before take-off.
| | | | I had plenty (?) of sic-sacks and they used
| them.
| | When
| | | we
| | | | got to Emporia we threw the used bags in the
| trash
| | ands
| | | | bought all the sic-sacks they had at the
| airport, 4
| | to
| | | | restock the airplane. We also took a while
to
| | settle
| | | down.
| | | | But half way to Marion the hamburgers took
over
| | again
| | | and
| | | | shortly they had used all four new bags.
Then
| they
| | | still
| | | | got ill because of the smell. She dumped
the
| | aircraft
| | | | paperwork in the seat pocket at my
instruction
| and
| | used
| | | the
| | | | zip lock portfolio and he used the right
hand
| pocket
| | of
| | | his
| | | | NEW sports coat.
| | | | I, being the superior pilot/CFI with a nose
used
| to
| | | | shoveling horse droppings and even some pigs
[I
| was
| | a
| | | "pile
| | | | it" , before I became an aviator] was able
to
| resist
| | the
| | | | need for myself. And the smell is still in
my
| | nostrils.
| | | |
| | | | hen I was learning to be a CFI, I asked my
| friend
| | and
| | | | instructor at Spartan (Auggie) how to handle
air
| | sick
| | | | students and was told that in the Cessna
150-172
| | | airplanes,
| | | | open the window and stick their head
outside.
| Never
| | had
| | | to
| | | | do that.
| | | |
| | | | BTW, that student is now an FAA Inspector
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | James H. Macklin
| | | | ATP,CFI,A&P
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | The people think the Constitution protects
their
| | rights;
| | | | But government sees it as an obstacle to be
| | overcome.
| | | | some support
| | | |
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| | | | See http://www.fija.org/ more about your
rights
| and
| | | duties.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | "Dudley Henriques"

| wrote
| | in
| | | | message
| | | |
| | |
| |
|
.net...
| | | | |
| | | | | "Jim Macklin"
| |
| | | wrote
| | | | in message
| | | | | news:nnkKf.100060$4l5.33181@dukeread05...
| | | | | big ----- deal, also BFH = big hammer,
tfc
| too
| | cold
| | | | |
| | | | | The 121 pilots have a full support staff
to
| help
| | | with
| | | | flight
| | | | | planning and a crew to bring and serve
the
| | coffee.
| | | The
| | | | 135
| | | | | charter pilot has the best and worst
job,
| gets
| | paid
| | | to
| | | | fly
| | | | | pretty good airplanes but has to carry
the
| | luggage,
| | | do
| | | | all
| | | | | the flight planning, brew and serve the
| coffee,
| | and
| | | | clean
| | | | | the potty.
| | | | |
| | | | | .................not to mention the
cockpit
| vomit,
| | | which
| | | | is a smell that
| | | | | never really leaves the airplane, and I
can
| still
| | | mentally
| | | | visualize to this
| | | | | very day .
| | | | | :-))))))))))))))))
| | | | | Dudley Henriques
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|