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Old November 4th 06, 10:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kev
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Mxsmanic wrote:
What things do you consider it essential to always have on board for
every flight? Not just things required by law, but things that you
personally believe in having on the aircraft before you leave the
ground.


For flight: Flashlights. Pens and mechanical pencils. Batteries.
More flashlights :-)

For emergency landings: These days, a cell phone. Matches. Water.
Leatherman tool. Blanket if it's cold.

Kev

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Old November 5th 06, 12:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Which leads to serious dehydration and potential mental impairment.


No, it does not.


oh boy... keep believing that if you want; after all you are
not likely to hurt yourself or others when flying a sim at home,
but you are seriously mistaken here.

The fact is that there is not enough emphasis on the effects of
dehydration when training (though I was glad to notice that it
is taken far more seriously by the CAP); not even mentioned in
the 'medical facts' chapter of the AIM.

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Old November 5th 06, 02:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Sylvain writes:

oh boy... keep believing that if you want; after all you are
not likely to hurt yourself or others when flying a sim at home,
but you are seriously mistaken here.


Not having a full bladder is not the same as being dehydrated. If
you're not thirsty in the hours before your flight, you don't need to
drink anything prior to flying. During the flight, you should drink
as soon as you feel thirsty, or prophylactically before that if you
want to be safe (but keep in mind that you may have to urinate if you
drink more than you need to stay hydrated).

For very long trips, you cannot avoid a full bladder, as a minimal
amount of water is required by the kidneys to operate. This amount
isn't very large, though--it's around 500-1000 ml per 24 hours.

The fact is that there is not enough emphasis on the effects of
dehydration when training (though I was glad to notice that it
is taken far more seriously by the CAP); not even mentioned in
the 'medical facts' chapter of the AIM.


Mild dehydration doesn't have much in the way of effects; a lot of
other effects are far more significant. So it's not surprising that
dehydration might not be mentioned. Additionally, hydration is hard
to measure.

If you're stuck in midair with a full bladder, that will be far more
of a distraction and impairment than some mild dehydration. It may
encourage you to do foolish things in an attempt to get to a toilet as
quickly as possible.

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Old November 5th 06, 03:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Mxsmanic wrote:

For very long trips, you cannot avoid a full bladder, as a minimal
amount of water is required by the kidneys to operate. This amount
isn't very large, though--it's around 500-1000 ml per 24 hours.


At my age, I produce more than 500 ml within ONE-HOUR of consuming
one-liter of liquid! You do not know how excruiciating it is to try to
hold that amount for even a short time.
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Old November 5th 06, 06:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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john smith writes:

At my age, I produce more than 500 ml within ONE-HOUR of consuming
one-liter of liquid!


That's because you drank a liter of liquid. But you only need about
500 ml over the course of an entire day to keep your kidneys running,
assuming that you don't lose excessive amounts of fluid through
perspiration, vomiting, or diarrhea.

You do not know how excruiciating it is to try to hold that amount
for even a short time.


Actually, I hate having anything other than an empty bladder, and I do
try to anticipate long trips and plan for them in a way that minimizes
the chances of being stuck far from a toilet. And this would be a
concern for me in GA aircraft (yet another advantage that simulation
has over real life).

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Old November 6th 06, 04:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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john smith wrote:
At my age, I produce more than 500 ml within ONE-HOUR of consuming
one-liter of liquid! You do not know how excruiciating it is to try to
hold that amount for even a short time.


Oh well, that's why relief tubes were invented... Well, that plus when
you are flying over Skylune's house... evil-grin

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Old November 6th 06, 05:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Judah" wrote in message
. ..
Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Kidney stones are not a universal consequence of even chronic
dehydration. Individuals who develop them often seem to have a
predisposition to the condition, or other problems that encourage the
development of stones.

People who have a history of renal calculi should drink more water and
fluids, but those who have no such history need not take any
exceptional precautions.


Oh great! Now he's a doctor!

Where'd you learn all that?

The "Operation" game?


Microsoft Doctor Simulator 2005.


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Old November 6th 06, 05:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Grumman-581 wrote:
.. Since I always have a .45 on
me, I guess that counts also... Usually don't have 50 rounds in my plane
though... I might have 1000 rounds of various calibers in my truck or
Jeep, but I don't carry that many in my plane... Sounds like I need to
restock...


I am so very thankful I live in New Zealand.

 




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