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Old March 18th 07, 04:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:44:44 -0400, john smith wrote
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And you were dehydrated because you didn't drink enough water!


I don't fly without a 1.5 ltr bottle of water. It's essential.

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Old March 18th 07, 07:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:37:18 +0000, Larry Dighera wrote:

Becoming a responsible airman is not really at all akin to becoming a
licensed motorist.


Why not? I don't mean what is, but what should be. I've seen some awful
drivers. Shouldn't the bar be higher than it is?

How often, just to a couple of common examples, do driving instructors
check on a student's handling of distractions? Or deal with the concept
of "personal minimums"?

Shouldn't they?

- Andrew

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Old March 18th 07, 07:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article .com,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

I know, but it's the kind of simple math that I *should* be able to do
in my head.


Cruise altitude - target altitude = altitude loss

9,500 - 2,000 = 7,500

altitude loss/500fpm = minutes or [altitude loss/1,000] x 2

7,500/500 = 15 minutes or 7.5 x 2 = 15 minutes

minutes x miles per minute = miles

15 x 1.5 = 22.5nm 15 x 2 = 30nm 15 x 2.5 = 37.5nm 15 x 3 = 45nm

90 kts = 1.5 nm/m
120 kts = 2.0 nm/m
150 kts = 2.5 nm/m
180 kts = 3.0 nm/m
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Old March 18th 07, 07:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Gideon
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 00:07:45 -0400, Tim wrote:

Saving 6 hours round trip (approx
40% savings in time) is wonderful.


Some people get interested when they hear I'm a pilot, but only because
it's an oddity. On the other hand, when I describe my wife and I taking a
quick lunch on Nantucket (or some other attractive multi-hour drive), and
then playing with our son on the beach, the interest picks up.

But that's just the practical side. My wife and I SCUBA too. There's
just something about that third dimension that we're not meant to ignore.

On the other hand, some people are happy being flatlanders and it's wrong
of us to judge that. But it is irksome how some people use their own
fear and limits as justification to try to impose those upon others.

Is the era of GA over? No, far from it. But we are under attack by
small-minded people that fear anyone that doesn't live from fear. Perhaps
fear makes people easier to control (ie. vote for me or you'll be nuked by
imaginary WMD)? Perhaps some people just cannot stand those that do what
they cannot?

I don't know. But from reading here, I gather that this attack of the
small-minded isn't new. It is our job to stand and fly despite this. To
do otherwise is to surrender to tyranny and mediocrity.

How fortunate that it's also terrific fun and providing some very
practical benefits.

- Andrew

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Old March 18th 07, 07:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Tim wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
If you're not thirsty, you're not dehydrated.


Are you a doctor or a sports physiologist? Where did you get that load
of crap?


I think he made the mistake of inverting the causality in the statement "If
you are thirsty then you are dehydrated," which appears to be generally
accepted as far as I can tell. Mxsmanic appears to have made a classic
blunder in logic: that "If A then B" implies "If B then A." Of course it
doesn't.

While it appears to be true that by the time you experience thirst you are
dehydrated, there appears to be some physiologic lag time after other
dehydration symptoms have occurred but before thirst kicks in. So it
appears there is a period of time in which you may be dehydrated but are
not yet thirsty.

Of course sometimes I get a dry mouth working in dusty environments and
really need a drink of water. I'd call that being thirsty in a colloquial
sense, though it may not match the physiologic meaning.
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Old March 18th 07, 08:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Tim writes:

Are you a doctor or a sports physiologist?


Neither.

Where did you get that load of crap?


From medical textbooks.

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Old March 18th 07, 08:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jim Logajan writes:

I think he made the mistake of inverting the causality in the statement "If
you are thirsty then you are dehydrated," which appears to be generally
accepted as far as I can tell.


So is the inverse. Thirst is a reliable indicator of dehydration. An absence
of thirst is a reliable indicator of proper hydration.

While it appears to be true that by the time you experience thirst you are
dehydrated, there appears to be some physiologic lag time after other
dehydration symptoms have occurred but before thirst kicks in.


Only in extraordinarily acute dehydration, which is not a type of dehydration
that occurs when flying an aircraft.

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Old March 18th 07, 08:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Tim writes:

It is no more expensive that other hobbies or activities.


The number of other hobbies and activities that are orders of magnitude less
expensive than flying is too great to allow them all to be enumerated here.

It takes about 70 hours of flight training to get a private pilot certificate.


It takes a pencil and a piece of charcoal to practice art as a hobby.

I see no correlation between simulation and real flying.


I see no correlation between flying tin cans and flying any other type of
aircraft. But perhaps we're both wrong.

Perhaps the reluctance of real pilots to welcome
you has little to do with your chosen way to spend time (simming/gaming)
than it is your clear and often rudely stated discussions about how GA
is useless and the pilots of GA aircraft are stupid, ignorant, filthy
rich, macho/testosterone filled babies with huge egos.


Their reluctance is directly connected to their emotions. Unfortunately, some
of those emotions are indeed correlated with stupidity, ignorance, and
testosterone, although the correlation is not terribly high.

Most pilots I have met do not match the view you have of them.


Most of those pilots don't start threads five times a week discussing me here
in this newsgroup.

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Old March 18th 07, 09:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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I know, but it's the kind of simple math that I *should* be able to do
in my head.


Cruise altitude - target altitude = altitude loss

9,500 - 2,000 = 7,500

altitude loss/500fpm = minutes or [altitude loss/1,000] x 2

7,500/500 = 15 minutes or 7.5 x 2 = 15 minutes


Right -- and when I'm not hypoxic, that's easy stuff.

:-)

The rest of what you showed is really unnecessary, as both GPS's show
a steady count-down in minutes till arrival...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old March 18th 07, 10:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Tim
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Tim writes:


Are you a doctor or a sports physiologist?



Neither.


I thought not.



Where did you get that load of crap?



From medical textbooks.



I would look for new medical textbooks.
I have experienced dehydration. I was diagnosed as such by doctors. I
was not thirsty. I was given IV fluids. Fixed the dehydration.

You're wrong on this one. Thirst is an indicator, but it is not true
that dehydration must always include a symptom of thirst.

 




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