Aviation Beer

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Gak. You smoke very expensive...turds. Never could figure out how
anyone could put something like that in their mouths, but I've got
friends who swear by them...

Turd, my ass (oopps, that didn't come out right...I mean...oh, never
mind)

More like a very fine wine or superior brandy.

Sometimes a cigar is just...a cigar...?

;-)

"A woman is a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke!" - Kipling, 'The
Betrothed'.

:~)````

"Matt Barrow" wrote:
"Erik" wrote in message
...

Hahaha. Yeah, never been in trouble in my life, but now
I'm a goddamned soul-sucking criminal.

Note: Multinomah county (where Portland actually is) is not
the same, they actually have a .08 rule, so if you go downtown
and have a couple beers, then drive into Washington county,
you're only a criminal once you cross the county line.

Unusual. I've never heard of traffic laws being defined at any other
level that the state level.

It appears some states allow counties to do that sort of thing, and
according to this source one Montana county used that authority to adopt
open container laws:

http://alcoholism.about.com/b/a/013416.htm

But I can't find anything to support the claim that Washington county in
Oregon has the alleged law. Not that it doesn't exist, but I'm finding it
difficult to verify with online searches.

("Matt Barrow" wrote)
Why is it bogus? The EPA claimed that 3,000 Americans die annually from
secondhand smoke, but there was a problem. They couldn't come up with that
conclusion using the standard statistical 95 percent confidence interval.
They lowered their study's confidence interval to 90 percent. That has the
effect of doubling the margin of error and doubling the probability that
mere chance explains those 3,000 deaths.


Let's not quibble, you went from 5% to 10%. Ok, I'll call that doubling the
margin of error.

They're at 90 (friggin') % for crying out loud - down only (10%) from 95%
.....confidence.

Also...
"That has the effect of doubling the margin of error and doubling the
probability that mere chance explains those 3,000 deaths."

Word games! Double-Plus Ungood. Yuck!

Again, ...they're at 90 (friggin') % for crying out loud.

Let's see if I can do those numbers in my head, hmm...that's 9 out of 10
case.

Sure, "mere chance" plays a role in some of the deaths, but a 9 out of 10
CONFIDENCE LEVEL IN THE REST. HELLO?

BTW, 90% is the statistical minimum. So we might be hanging around the 93.8%
mark. I'm just saying...

I might agree with your bigger point, but this argument, on its own, is
disingenuous - a sales job.


Montblack

("Newps" wrote)
Fly into an area with that many blithering idiots? I think not. Maybe
someday. More important things to do around here at that time.


Fly into ANE, then hitch a ride in the airplane of minivans.

That way you only have to deal with one blithering idiot - for 6 hours!!!


Montblack
I stop a lot. :-)

I like you hahahaha Need to get there and have a few brews with ya!!!

Just for the helluva it, I did a Yahoo search on "Aviation Beer".

Got this one:

http://www.warbirdbrewing.com/the_wa...tory_index.htm

(P-51 beer? Cool!)

and this one:

http://www.beer-toone.com/about.htm (Okay, it's not beer -- he's a
lawyer, named "Beer"! My kind of attorney...)

and this one:

http://www.wallywine.com/p-28175-avi...gin-750ml.aspx (It's
actually gin, but, hey, it's about "flying"...sorta...)

and this one:

http://www.langcreekbrewery.com/ (A back-country pilot's dream
brewery, located in Montana.)

The connection between pilots and microbrews is amazing.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Avaition Destination"

"Montblack" wrote in message
...
("Matt Barrow" wrote)
Why is it bogus? The EPA claimed that 3,000 Americans die annually from
secondhand smoke, but there was a problem. They couldn't come up with
that
conclusion using the standard statistical 95 percent confidence interval.
They lowered their study's confidence interval to 90 percent. That has
the
effect of doubling the margin of error and doubling the probability that
mere chance explains those 3,000 deaths.


Let's not quibble, you went from 5% to 10%. Ok, I'll call that doubling
the
margin of error.

They're at 90 (friggin') % for crying out loud - down only (10%) from 95%
....confidence.

Also...
"That has the effect of doubling the margin of error and doubling the
probability that mere chance explains those 3,000 deaths."

Word games! Double-Plus Ungood. Yuck!

Again, ...they're at 90 (friggin') % for crying out loud.

Let's see if I can do those numbers in my head, hmm...that's 9 out of 10
case.

Sure, "mere chance" plays a role in some of the deaths, but a 9 out of 10
CONFIDENCE LEVEL IN THE REST. HELLO?

BTW, 90% is the statistical minimum. So we might be hanging around the
93.8%
mark. I'm just saying...

I might agree with your bigger point, but this argument, on its own, is
disingenuous - a sales job.


Learn how statistics are used in research.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
I like you hahahaha Need to get there and have a few brews with ya!!!

Just for the helluva it, I did a Yahoo search on "Aviation Beer".

Got this one:

http://www.warbirdbrewing.com/the_wa...tory_index.htm

(P-51 beer? Cool!)

and this one:

http://www.beer-toone.com/about.htm (Okay, it's not beer -- he's a
lawyer, named "Beer"! My kind of attorney...)

and this one:

http://www.wallywine.com/p-28175-avi...gin-750ml.aspx (It's
actually gin, but, hey, it's about "flying"...sorta...)

and this one:

http://www.langcreekbrewery.com/ (A back-country pilot's dream
brewery, located in Montana.)

The connection between pilots and microbrews is amazing.

They told me I was gullible...and I believed them! :~)

Not beer, but how about some wine?


Many French fields offer a local wine branded to the airfield. Le
Touquet is one.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Erik" wrote in message
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Judah wrote:

Jose wrote in news:GoO7i.24890$JZ3.3963
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They've driven the smokers out into the cold,

In Seattle, for example, you are not allowed to smoke within 25' of a
building. I think that's ridiculous.

25' of a door or a window that opens. Stupid.


I'm a smoker and I have no problem with that. Nobody likes to be hit in the
chops with a cloud of smoke coming out of a building.
For a year I had quit smoking and I learned a lot of respect for the comfort
of the non-smokers around me. After hosting a card game the stench would
linger in my house for days. So even if I am given permission to have a
smoke in a non-smokers home I will step outside if I need it that bad.
I do strongly belive that all airports should have an indoor smoking lounge
within the security area. During delayed/cancelled flight periods, stuck
passengers would easier to deal with not to mention relive the added burden
of multiple trips thru screening making those lines that much longer.

Jim Logajan wrote:

"Matt Barrow" wrote:

"Erik" wrote in message
...

Hahaha. Yeah, never been in trouble in my life, but now
I'm a goddamned soul-sucking criminal.

Note: Multinomah county (where Portland actually is) is not
the same, they actually have a .08 rule, so if you go downtown
and have a couple beers, then drive into Washington county,
you're only a criminal once you cross the county line.

Unusual. I've never heard of traffic laws being defined at any other
level that the state level.


It appears some states allow counties to do that sort of thing, and
according to this source one Montana county used that authority to adopt
open container laws:

http://alcoholism.about.com/b/a/013416.htm

But I can't find anything to support the claim that Washington county in
Oregon has the alleged law. Not that it doesn't exist, but I'm finding it
difficult to verify with online searches.

I found out the hard way. I cannot for the life of me find
documentation of it, either. It's not a very publicly touted
law. There's no commercials about it on TV and if you look in
the Washington county website (google for Washington county
oregon law and skip past the lawyers) it's impossible to find.

My lawyer seemed to agree with the county, though, and I paid
his ass, no state-appointed crap for me, dammit.