Head orientation in turns--how is it taught for aviation?

Mxsmanic wrote:
When you make a coordinated turn in an aircraft, are you taught to
let your head tilt with the bank angle of the aircraft, or are you
taught to keep your head normal to the horizon?

The position of my head was never mentioned in any flight training I ever
received with the exception once I was told to get it out of my ass after a
particularly bad crosswind landing.

Gig 601XL Builder schrieb:
The position of my head was never mentioned in any flight training I ever
received with the exception once I was told to get it out of my ass after a
particularly bad crosswind landing.

I was emphatically tought to really move my head around all axes to have
a complete look out in all directions, especially to look over my
shoulder before initiating a turn (coordinated or not), and even more so
while thermalling in a gaggle with ten other gliders.

Conversely, I tell first time passengers not to move their heads at all
and to concentrate at the horizon, especially while thermalling, to
enhance the chance of keeping that certain bag empty.

On Jun 10, 8:07 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
When you make a coordinated turn in an aircraft, are you taught to let your
head tilt with the bank angle of the aircraft, or are you taught to keep your
head normal to the horizon?

I can see where your question may come from if your experience of
flying is from watching TV. In real life the passengers remain in line
with the aircraft and only the earth banks outside. There are no
forces causing you to lean either way if the turn is coordinated.

-robert, CFII

On Jun 10, 11:07 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
When you make a coordinated turn in an aircraft, are you taught to let your
head tilt with the bank angle of the aircraft, or are you taught to keep your
head normal to the horizon?

A couple of things to ponder.

If (contray to what real life pilots and CFIs have said here) pilots
were taught to generally lean/tilt their heads to keep it normal to
the horizon, wouldn't a fine simulator such as MSFS ("as real as it
gets") be designed to keep the horizon always horizonal across your
monitor and have the cockpit artwork rotate/tilt (since that would
present the same sight picture to a sim-pilot as a real pilot would
encounter)?

Have you ever felt the need to lean/tilt your head during coordinated
turns in a commercial airliner? If you forced yourself to lean in
such a situation you chances are you'd feel much more disorientated.

On Jun 12, 11:52 am, Bob Crawford wrote:
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Have you ever felt the need to lean/tilt your head during coordinated
turns in a commercial airliner?

I don't recall ever sensing an airliner was in a bank while in solid
cloud. Like where I know they'd have to hang some healthy turns to
swing back to join the LOC on the ILS. Can't feel nuthin. The
carriers need to consult MX to see what they're doing wrong.

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On Jun 12, 11:52 am, Bob Crawford wrote:
...
Have you ever felt the need to lean/tilt your head during coordinated
turns in a commercial airliner?

I don't recall ever sensing an airliner was in a bank while in solid
cloud.

Oh I have! Feels awful.

Bertie

Bob Crawford writes:

A couple of things to ponder.

If (contray to what real life pilots and CFIs have said here) pilots
were taught to generally lean/tilt their heads to keep it normal to
the horizon, wouldn't a fine simulator such as MSFS ("as real as it
gets") be designed to keep the horizon always horizonal across your
monitor and have the cockpit artwork rotate/tilt (since that would
present the same sight picture to a sim-pilot as a real pilot would
encounter)?

No. Sim pilots can turn their heads, too.

Have you ever felt the need to lean/tilt your head during coordinated
turns in a commercial airliner? If you forced yourself to lean in
such a situation you chances are you'd feel much more disorientated.

I'm rarely aware of turns in an airliner, as I'm not flying the plane and
don't have to worry about where it is going.

Mxsmanic wrote in :

Bob Crawford writes:

A couple of things to ponder.

If (contray to what real life pilots and CFIs have said here) pilots
were taught to generally lean/tilt their heads to keep it normal to
the horizon, wouldn't a fine simulator such as MSFS ("as real as it
gets") be designed to keep the horizon always horizonal across your
monitor and have the cockpit artwork rotate/tilt (since that would
present the same sight picture to a sim-pilot as a real pilot would
encounter)?

No. Sim pilots can turn their heads, too.

Must be hard when it's up yo ass.



Have you ever felt the need to lean/tilt your head during coordinated
turns in a commercial airliner? If you forced yourself to lean in
such a situation you chances are you'd feel much more disorientated.

I'm rarely aware of turns in an airliner, as I'm not flying the plane and
don't have to worry about where it is going.




So you just board them higgedly piggedly, do you?
Doesn't matter where it goes?


Bertie