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if you mount an altimeter at the 100' level of a 200' tower,
equiped it with a static tube 100' long, that the altimeter will read the same regardless if end of the tube, is stationed at the top or bottom of the tower. That is a mostly true statement. Conditions inside the tube could differ from ambient conditions, this would engender a teeny (but real) difference in readings. Jose You mean like pressure loss of the long length or something? Humidity or moisture content comes most readily to my mind. Peter |
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You mean like pressure loss of the long length or something?
The conditions inside the tube are different from the conditions outside the tube. I expect they'd be very similar, but given a very long, very insulated tube, which starts out with (say) dry air, followed by the passage of a moist front, there would be a difference. Jose -- Get high on gasoline: fly an airplane. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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![]() Right and the altitude indicated has little to do with the altitude of the instrument. Well, that's a little extreme. They are related like integrals to the same function: +C Jose -- Get high on gasoline: fly an airplane. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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![]() "Jose" wrote in message t... You mean like pressure loss of the long length or something? The conditions inside the tube are different from the conditions outside the tube. I expect they'd be very similar, but given a very long, very insulated tube, which starts out with (say) dry air, followed by the passage of a moist front, there would be a difference. Agreed, and even moisture would be a factor as Peter suggested. By the tower example I was just trying to verify that the altimeter measured presssure based on it's location, not the location of the static port, with the exception of errors caused a longer or shorter length of hose to the port. |
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![]() "Neil Gould" wrote in message t... You do when you imply that there is a necessary agreement between what the altimeter senses and what it displays. What implied that? Jose listed them in response to an earlier post of yours. I must have missed that one. You actually said, "When you tell a pilot "altimeter 3012" the pilot simply adjusts the *Kollsman setting* to 3012." (emphasis mine). As we described the same action, this distinction is without a functional difference. I think there's a significant functional difference between adjusting the altimeter setting and adjusting the indicated altitude. |
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![]() "Matt Whiting" wrote in message news ![]() Right and the altitude indicated has little to do with the altitude of the instrument. Right. That's why changing the altitude of the instrument, as is done by climbing or descending, has so little effect on the indicated altitude. |
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Recently, Steven P. McNicoll posted:
"Neil Gould" wrote in message t... You do when you imply that there is a necessary agreement between what the altimeter senses and what it displays. What implied that? On 4/2/07, you wrote: "An altimeter indicates altitude at the level of the instrument itself. " and, again: "In other words, an altimeter indicates altitude at the level of the instrument itself. " And so forth. That is not necessarily so. You actually said, "When you tell a pilot "altimeter 3012" the pilot simply adjusts the *Kollsman setting* to 3012." (emphasis mine). As we described the same action, this distinction is without a functional difference. I think there's a significant functional difference between adjusting the altimeter setting and adjusting the indicated altitude. Well, I wrote: "Consider that when you tell a pilot that the "altimeter is 30.12", the pilot adjusts the indicated altitude by setting the Kollsman window to that pressure setting." The "adjustment" in both cases is to the Kollsman setting. The result is a change in the displayed altitude. So, what is different is the structure of the sentence, not the action or intent, unless you think your omission of the resulting displayed altitude is significant. If so, why do you think so? Neil |
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![]() "Neil Gould" wrote in message . net... On 4/2/07, you wrote: "An altimeter indicates altitude at the level of the instrument itself. " and, again: "In other words, an altimeter indicates altitude at the level of the instrument itself. " And so forth. That is not necessarily so. Why not? |
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Recently, Steven P. McNicoll posted:
"Neil Gould" wrote in message . net... On 4/2/07, you wrote: "An altimeter indicates altitude at the level of the instrument itself. " and, again: "In other words, an altimeter indicates altitude at the level of the instrument itself. " And so forth. That is not necessarily so. Why not? After puzzling the difficulties that several of us have had in trying to explain the differences between "indicated" (e.g. what the pilot sees) -- and "senses" (how the altimeter is calibrated), I can only guess that for you, sitting in the tower, there is no practical difference because you are always at the same altitude. ;-) You can review some of the excellent explanations that Jose and others have provided to answer your question. The original question asked whether the altimeter is set to indicate the altitude at the wheels or "at the level...", and if that question has been definitively answered, I missed it. Neil |
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The original question asked whether the altimeter is set to indicate the
altitude at the wheels or "at the level...", and if that question has been definitively answered, I missed it. Somebody posted a link to the altimeter calibration procedure, and that procedure calibrates the altimeter to the altitude of the instrument. There is no provision in that document for adjusting the indicated altitude to account for the relative position of the instrument in the aircraft. There may be another document that does so - an altimeter is not certified for IFR just by itself, the =installation= has to be certified too, and the FAA could easily require such an adjustment as not. OTOH, there may =not= be another document which does so. When an altimeter =installation= is certified, what procedure is followed? Jose -- Get high on gasoline: fly an airplane. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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