Harley engine special

(Jim-Ed Browne) wrote:

This has deteriorated into a lower deal than even I thought it would.

First rule of holes....
QUIT DIGGING.

If BoB wants to fly behind a Lyc, a Continental or even a real real
aircraft engine-that is a PT-6 or a Screamin' 331 Garrett-hey, it's
his money.

Your ignorance and lack of experience/perspective is showing.
I would fly behind a turbine in a heartbeat if it made any sense at
all for my pocketbook and flying missions.

FYI -
My son is a senior gas turbine design engineer - P&W/GE

But if he's going to hang out and badmouth
those of us who would rather not we'll just killfile him.

balance of Jim-Ed Browne idiotic rant snipped

I've survived flukes like you for a goodly number of years here.
Many of the RAH regulars know me by sight and what I represent.
My life is an open_honest book_and everyone knows what I think of
them and where they stand... including you. I'm as loyal and solid
as the Rock of Gibraltar. Some appreciate me and others don't.
That's life.

As of this message, Jim-Ed Browne is killfiled.

-PLONK-


Barnyard BOb -
The more people I meet,
the more I love my dog...
and George Carlin humor.

Barnyard BOb - THE REAL DEAL
N863WL - hangAred in the Show Me State

Hey BOb, send me an email. I tried to write you but the most recent
address I could find on Google bounced.

Del Rawlins-
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Yeah...
Seem ONLY the SPAMMERS can find me with ease. g

Besides..
If you follow the dorks that are into 'shooting the messenger'...
nothing about me is for real. If they keep on keeping on,
I may cease to exist in physical form or just as a figment
of my imagination, shortly.


Barnyard BOb - THE REAL DEAL smirk

"Barnyard BOb -" wrote in message
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(Jim-Ed Browne) wrote:

This has deteriorated into a lower deal than even I thought it would.

First rule of holes....
QUIT DIGGING.

If BoB wants to fly behind a Lyc, a Continental or even a real real
aircraft engine-that is a PT-6 or a Screamin' 331 Garrett-hey, it's
his money.

Your ignorance and lack of experience/perspective is showing.
I would fly behind a turbine in a heartbeat if it made any sense at
all for my pocketbook and flying missions.

FYI -
My son is a yapyapyapyapyap ad nauseam.

As of this message, Jim-Ed Browne is killfiled.

-PLONK-

Which means you're also a sniveling little coward, like a geeky schoolboy
who hits from behind and runs, then hides behind the teacher's skirt-tails.
***********************

And aren't you the guy who said he went to get in his agplane one day and
the safety harness disintegrated and fell apart from UV rays and old age?

You remind me of the press...
dealing in half truths and ****ball innuendos.

[In other words, the answer to this question is YES. It's in the archives
if he hasn't erased it, which he has often done in order to escape detection
for dishonesty and hypocrisy.]
************************
"Barnyard BOb - longtime experimental builder and pilot"----- Longtime
windbag is more like it. You can be sure he has no expertise in engines,
has never worked on one, doesn't have a repairman's certificate even for the
homebuilt plane he flies.

Man, am I glad I'm not in here somewhere...

pac "reformed malcontent" plyer


" jls" wrote in message .. .
"Barnyard BOb -" wrote in message
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(Jim-Ed Browne) wrote:

This has deteriorated into a lower deal than even I thought it would.

First rule of holes....
QUIT DIGGING.

If BoB wants to fly behind a Lyc, a Continental or even a real real
aircraft engine-that is a PT-6 or a Screamin' 331 Garrett-hey, it's
his money.

Your ignorance and lack of experience/perspective is showing.
I would fly behind a turbine in a heartbeat if it made any sense at
all for my pocketbook and flying missions.

FYI -
My son is a yapyapyapyapyap ad nauseam.

As of this message, Jim-Ed Browne is killfiled.

-PLONK-

Which means you're also a sniveling little coward, like a geeky schoolboy
who hits from behind and runs, then hides behind the teacher's skirt-tails.
***********************

And aren't you the guy who said he went to get in his agplane one day and
the safety harness disintegrated and fell apart from UV rays and old age?

You remind me of the press...
dealing in half truths and ****ball innuendos.

[In other words, the answer to this question is YES. It's in the archives
if he hasn't erased it, which he has often done in order to escape detection
for dishonesty and hypocrisy.]
************************
"Barnyard BOb - longtime experimental builder and pilot"----- Longtime
windbag is more like it. You can be sure he has no expertise in engines,
has never worked on one, doesn't have a repairman's certificate even for the
homebuilt plane he flies.

Nothing like negative stats
to put the insurance industry in a tailspin. [Pardon the pun.]

You Mean "Pardon the Spun."

Is BarnYard Bob a Spin Doctor? .... Is he getting paid by Teledyne?

(wingsnaprop) wrote:

Nothing like negative stats
to put the insurance industry in a tailspin. [Pardon the pun.]

You Mean "Pardon the Spun."

No "SPUN" to it.

WHEN/IF auto conversions prove to be equal or better than
the certified stuff, the insurance companies will be the first to
know it...... and the rates to reflect it. As it stands now, aviation
insurance companies, in general, want nothing to do with auto
conversion power at any price. If that doesn't tell you something,
nothing will. INCALCULABLE risk is not in their game of profit.

So, go argue with them.
Not me.


Is BarnYard Bob a Spin Doctor? .... Is he getting paid by Teledyne?

NAH, on both counts.

FYI -
When it can be statistically proven that there is a more
reliable replacement engine than current crops of production
aviation certifieds... I will be the first to shout it to the world.

Until then, those that believe there is something better that
can readily be brewed in their backyards on the cheap are just
delusional gamblers that are clueless of the odds they face.
Statistics bear this out.

One last time...
No need to argue with me.
I'm not connected to the insurance industry, either.


Barnyard BOb - from the Show Me State

Barnyard BOb wrote:

....... As it stands now, aviation
insurance companies, in general, want nothing to do with auto
conversion power at any price. If that doesn't tell you something,
nothing will. INCALCULABLE risk is not in their game of profit.

I don't want to jump into the middle of this fracas, but I thought I'd
interject some data points. Both John Slade and Steve Brooks have
recently (Steve, yesterday, and John, about a month ago) flown their
Mazda Rotary powered COZY MKIV's. They were both able to get insurance
on their aircraft with no particular difficulty, and with substantially
no price difference or flight restrictions from what I pay or have for
my Lycoming O-360 powered COZY MKIV.

Just some data.

--
Marc J. Zeitlin
http://marc.zeitlin.home.comcast.net/
http://www.cozybuilders.org/
Copyright (c) 2004

On Sat, 22 May 2004, Barnyard BOb wrote:


know it...... and the rates to reflect it. As it stands now, aviation
insurance companies, in general, want nothing to do with auto
conversion power at any price.

Bull****

My insurance is from Avemco, $400 per year, liability only,
Falcon wanted $500.


George Graham
RX-7 Powered Graham-EZ, N4449E
Homepage http://bfn.org/~ca266

On Sat, 22 May 2004, Barnyard BOb wrote:


know it...... and the rates to reflect it. As it stands now, aviation
insurance companies, in general, want nothing to do with auto
conversion power at any price.

Bull****

My insurance is from Avemco, $400 per year, liability only,
Falcon wanted $500.


George Graham
RX-7 Powered Graham-EZ, N4449E
Homepage http://bfn.org/~ca266
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Reread my post, CAREFULLY!
I didn't say... IMPOSSIBLE TO GET LIABILY FOR ONE AND ALL.

I said...... IN GENERAL, so....
Bull**** to you too and your ONE data point.
Besides, $400 is far from a bargain for Avemco's kluged liability
coverage. Ask the other companies what they think of Avemco's
half assed liability policy.

I've had FULL COVERAGE, including hull for a tad over $700 and
that includes a first rate liability package that Avemco does not
offer. I'd explain what that means, but you and your knowitall
"bull****" can go figure it out for yourself... or not.


What about availability of FIRST FLIGHT COVERAGE for auto conversions?
Available at all ? If so, what hoops does one have to jump through?
What about hull coverage for auto conversions?

George, you and I know the devil is in the details and you seldom
volunteer any facts and figures that do not support your carefully
crafted position.

In my parlance......
You are a helluva 'sharpshooter'.

Have a nice day.


Barnyard BOb -
The more people I meet,
the more I love my dog...
and George Carlin humor.

On Sat, 22 May 2004 10:15:32 -0500, Barnyard BOb
wrote:

WHEN/IF auto conversions prove to be equal or better than
the certified stuff, the insurance companies will be the first to
know it...... and the rates to reflect it. As it stands now, aviation
insurance companies, in general, want nothing to do with auto
conversion power at any price.

A bold statement sir, certainly worthy of BOb at his bubble busting
best.

The problem is auto conversions will likely never be certified, unless
you count the V6 Bombardier which isn't really an auto conversion,
because there really isn't a market for such an effort.

That doesn't mean there's no need for conversions, that's being driven
by the extreme prices for certified aviation engines. As long as the
price for such engines remains high, there will always be people
trying to find a different way.

It's actually a very American trait to use innovation to solve a
problem.

You've been a prominant naysayer for many many years now, basically
since the beginning of the discussion back in the 80's. While you've
been saying no, more and more auto conversions have taken to the air.
How many have to successfully fly for you to be satisfied that the
auto conversion is a viable alternative? What exactly are your
criteria?

Corky Scott