Jet Crew: Reverse Thrusters Failed in Chicago - Washington Post

Actually, I wanted to fly the Hekio Courier. I always
tried to learn from anybody who had an experience in any
field because I might be able to apply that to my actions
and save my butt.
Regimented flight ops hold no interest, military or airlines
have great equipment, but unless you are as rich as
Travolta, flying the Big Iron on a schedule sucks.
Shall whip them out and see whose is bigger?

Did the LOL boost your ego?


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm





rotor& "wing"
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| macklin comes off as a "heavy iron" wannabe that never
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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It was a fun TV show, too bad it is only on re-runs.



Especially the episode with John Wayne



"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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| stick the Flying Fickle Finger of Fate where the sun
don't
| shine or whatever.
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| Or Ruth Buzzie will beat the **** out of you with her
purse.

And Ronald Reagan.


"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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| It was a fun TV show, too bad it is only on re-runs.
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| | That's right, I'll have to slap myself with a wet
noodle
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| | stick the Flying Fickle Finger of Fate where the sun
| don't
| | shine or whatever.
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| | Or Ruth Buzzie will beat the **** out of you with her
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Matt,

How do you know that the MDW pilot in question is not a former Naval
Aviator (who liked the four wire)?? And you say he landed long and
hot, therefore he could not be a Naval Aviator but he could now be an
airline pilot because he landed long and hot on the carrier.

Anyone ever land an airliner at Detroit City airport? 4999 ft. long
and a cemetery at each end of the runway? One of the Major's used to
fly into City back a few years ago. Guess which one.

lynn wrote:

Anyone ever land an airliner at Detroit City airport?
4999 ft. long and a cemetery at each end of the runway?

Nope, just a Beech 18 -- no sweat there. I have been to the old Sault
Ste. Marie in CV-580's -- about the same length, but no sweat in the
Convair; DC-9's at MDW, LGA, and DCA; 757's at LGA and DCA -- always
enjoyed the extra fun.


One of the Major's used to fly into City back a few years ago.
Guess which one.

Let's see -- if you mean one of the majors that still exist (4) it must
have been NCA/REP/NWA (pick the appropriate era), or it could have been
US Air, back when they were trying to develop some DET-CLE business.


Jack

"Bob Moore" wrote in message
Besides flying the line in the -200 series from 1986-
1991, I taught the -100 series back in 1977-78.

After 1991, there was an FAA order to block out the 40 degree flap position
on 727s. It is because of balked landing performance with stuck flaps, not
because of noise limits. The quickest way to comply is to put a bolt behind
the 30 degree setting. Guess what happened to the bolt when we went into
4900' with 2% downslope and obstructed final approach?

Would you like a lesson on the flap/speedbrake interaction
and the sink rates that it causes?

How about roll rates with half speedbrakes?

D.

"Darkwing" wrote in message
There was a mechanic at my local flight school, he used to fly for the
airlines but lost his medical, he said the 727 was a bitch to land well.

Some pilots can't land their hand on their arse. The 727 lands sweet
consistently if you know what she wants.

D.

Capt.Doug wrote:

"Darkwing" wrote in message
There was a mechanic at my local flight school, he used to fly for the
airlines but lost his medical, he said the 727 was a bitch to land well.


Some pilots can't land their hand on their arse. The 727 lands sweet
consistently if you know what she wants.

Isn't that true of most airplanes?

Matt

"John Gaquin" wrote in message IIRC, on the 727, nose gear compression is
also required
for autospoiler deployment.

On the B-727, autospoilers deploy upon compression of the left main strut.

D.

"Capt.Doug" wrote

On the B-727, autospoilers deploy upon compression of the left main
strut.

The rest of the story..........


AUTOSPEEDBRAKES
When on the ground, the autospeedbrake system will automatically
extend the spoilers whenever reverse thrust is used, regardless
of whether the speedbrake handle has been placed in the ARM detent.
This ensures that the spoilers will be extended for every landing
and rejected takeoff.
If the speedbrake lever is placed in the ARM detent before landing,
the autospeedbrake system will automatically extend the spoilers
when the airplane is firmly on the ground. If a go-around in
initiated after landing, the speedbrake lever automatically returns
to the DN position when the No. 1 or No. 3 throttle is advanced to
go-around thrust.

If the speedbrake lever is not in the ARM detent, the lever will
automatically be raised out of the DN detent to the ARM detent
whenever either the No. 1 or No. 2 reverse thrust lever is moved
into idle reverse.

The autospeedbrake system includes a motor that will, on signal,
drive the speedbrake lever to the uP or DN position. System
operation is confirmed by observing speedbrake lever movement.

The autospeedbrake motor always runs to the up or down limit of
the speedbrake lever and then shuts off. Thereafter, manual
operation will slip the motor clutch and the speedbrake lever will
remain in the manually selected position.

An electrical malfunction of the automatic speedbrake system is
indicated by illumination of the SPEED BRAKE DO NOT ARM light when
the speedbrake lever is set in the ARM detent.

The SPEED BRAKE DO NOT ARM light will also illuminate after landing
when the airplane's wheel speed is below 60 kt.

To automatically extend the spoilers, the following interlocks
and logic must be satisfied:
• The speedbrake lever must be in the ARM detent. This provision
is bypassed by either the No. 1 or No. 2 reverse lever being
in the idle reverse position.
• The airplane must be on the ground (as determined by the left
main gear) or one wheel on each main gear must have attained a
.. speed of over 60 kt.
• No. 1 and No. 3 throttle at idle position.
• No retract signal to the autospeedbrake motor re-tract relay.

The autospeedbrake system can be overridden manually at any time.