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  #81  
Old March 4th 08, 05:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"James Robinson" wrote in message
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"Al G" wrote:

Evidently the Airbus software will allow you to use the rudder
remove the vertical stabilizer.


That was a non-FBW aircraft, (A-300) so software had nothing to do with
it.


I sit corrected.

Al G


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Old March 4th 08, 07:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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I don't know if it's accurate or not, but I read that they were on
Runway 23 and the wind was 29029G43.



I'm confused about something as well. The photo indicates that he
was on RWY 33 and the reports indicate wind was out of 290. The
video clearly shows that he was crabbing to the right by as much as
about 30 degrees. The math doesn't add up, does it?

http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...me=phpOltUWB.j
pg

Either that, or the perspective is skewed in the photo and the "33-15"
sign doesn't correspond to his runway.


It's a maekr indicating that the intersection of 33/15 is approaching. He
was on 23


Bertie
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Old March 4th 08, 07:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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I don't know if it's accurate or not, but I read that they were on
Runway 23 and the wind was 29029G43.



I'm confused about something as well. The photo indicates that he was on
RWY 33 and the reports indicate wind was out of 290. The video clearly
shows that he was crabbing to the right by as much as about 30 degrees.
The math doesn't add up, does it?

http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...=phpOltUWB.jpg

Either that, or the perspective is skewed in the photo and the "33-15" sign
doesn't correspond to his runway.

-c


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Old March 4th 08, 09:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"William Hung" wrote in message
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The good old days, sure mis them. I flew in a PanAm 747 a few imes
and an Eatern 727 once as a kid and remember getting the wing from the
PanAm crew. Too bad I lost that wing.

The good old days when kids get wings from pilots, fire hats from firemen
and badges from policemen. I jnow the firemen still give out
fire hats at open houses, but the cops are no longer someone that kidslook
up to anymore. At least not around here.


Two years ago I stopped a gaggle of shoppers from jaywalking into traffic in
downtown Portland. After they finally crossed, an officer that was standing
right there poked my arm and then gave me a Junior Crime Fighter sticker.
Apparently he'd been passing them out to kids. I hadn't even noticed him
there. But, no matter.

I'm a Junior Crime Fighter. Respect my authoritah!

As for the airlines, I must have kept my United and Continental wings until
I was a teenager. I can still remember what they looked like. If you think
about it, that's some inexpensive long-term advertising.

-c


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Old March 4th 08, 09:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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gatt wrote:
"William Hung" wrote in message
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The good old days, sure mis them. I flew in a PanAm 747 a few imes
and an Eatern 727 once as a kid and remember getting the wing from the
PanAm crew. Too bad I lost that wing.

The good old days when kids get wings from pilots, fire hats from firemen
and badges from policemen. I jnow the firemen still give out
fire hats at open houses, but the cops are no longer someone that kidslook
up to anymore. At least not around here.


Two years ago I stopped a gaggle of shoppers from jaywalking into traffic in
downtown Portland. After they finally crossed, an officer that was standing
right there poked my arm and then gave me a Junior Crime Fighter sticker.
Apparently he'd been passing them out to kids. I hadn't even noticed him
there. But, no matter.

I'm a Junior Crime Fighter. Respect my authoritah!

As for the airlines, I must have kept my United and Continental wings until
I was a teenager. I can still remember what they looked like. If you think
about it, that's some inexpensive long-term advertising.


I kept a pair of PanAm headphones. Does that count?

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Old March 4th 08, 10:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jim Stewart" wrote in message
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gatt wrote:
"William Hung" wrote in message


As for the airlines, I must have kept my United and Continental wings
until I was a teenager. I can still remember what they looked like. If
you think about it, that's some inexpensive long-term advertising.


I kept a pair of PanAm headphones. Does that count?



More or less, depending on whether it's the newfangled electric ones with
hair gel and earwax all over the felt pads, or the old air-tube style (one
step above the tin-can-and-string model)


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Old March 5th 08, 12:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:53:45 -0800, Jim Stewart
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gatt wrote:
"William Hung" wrote in message
...

The good old days, sure mis them. I flew in a PanAm 747 a few imes
and an Eatern 727 once as a kid and remember getting the wing from the
PanAm crew. Too bad I lost that wing.

The good old days when kids get wings from pilots, fire hats from firemen
and badges from policemen. I jnow the firemen still give out
fire hats at open houses, but the cops are no longer someone that kidslook
up to anymore. At least not around here.


Two years ago I stopped a gaggle of shoppers from jaywalking into traffic in
downtown Portland. After they finally crossed, an officer that was standing
right there poked my arm and then gave me a Junior Crime Fighter sticker.
Apparently he'd been passing them out to kids. I hadn't even noticed him
there. But, no matter.

I'm a Junior Crime Fighter. Respect my authoritah!

As for the airlines, I must have kept my United and Continental wings until
I was a teenager. I can still remember what they looked like. If you think
about it, that's some inexpensive long-term advertising.


I kept a pair of PanAm headphones. Does that count?


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Did they ever 'spread legs' )

Big John
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Old March 5th 08, 10:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Blueskies
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ...
Great Lakes or a Jungmann, to be honest.


Bertie

Jungmeister for sure :-))


Yeah, I know someone who had one before I met him. ******* sold it so I
never got to fly it!
just one of the prettiest airplanes ever.


Bertie


What about a Stampe?

Finally did a flight in a Pitts S2 a couple years ago. The elevator is soft, and inverted I pushed -4 on the meter, just
a twitch, and the GIB didn't like that much ;-)



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Old March 6th 08, 03:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Bertie the Bunyip
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On 5 Mar, 22:57, "Blueskies" wrote:
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in .com...

Great Lakes or a Jungmann, to be honest.


Bertie


Jungmeister for sure :-))


Yeah, I know someone who had one before I met him. ******* sold it so I
never got to fly it!
just one of the prettiest airplanes ever.


Bertie


What about a Stampe?


Nice, kinda weird ailerons, though. The top ones are real loose on
most and I worried about flutter, but it doesn't seem to be a problem.
Nearly bought one cheap years ago. Lucky I didn't as they have some
serious issues with the fuselage getting oil soaked. You can easily
spend as much on them as you bought them for getting it sorted. Very
like the Great lakes, though. Very pleasant to fly and they have funky
cantankerous engines too! (that's a plus in my book)


Bertie
 




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