Yep - 9-11 attacks predicted in 1994

"copertopkiller" wrote in a message

Seems you are another moron who thinks the exact target, day and time
needs
to be known before measures can be taken.

OK. What would you propose might have been done with this information that
might have stopped the 9/11 attacks?

Let me help you out a little he
When I was in the Navy, ships would often do training exercises with the
SEAL teams. They would notify us that they were going to attack the ship on
a given date between certain hours (usually about a 4 hour window). During
the planned time, we would station extra people on watch all over the ship &
the pier. We never once stopped them from succeeding. You looked for divers
or mini subs and they came in on mini helos. They came up the pier in a
Krispy Kreme donut truck. They created diversions in two areas and entered
via a third. They came in high speed boats with weapons blazing, or they
silently climed the side of the ship right under your feet.

When someone is dedicated to completing their task and dying is not a
concern, there isn't a thing you can do to stop them.

What would you propose?

"copertopkiller" wrote in a message

Lets forget about most cases and stay specific of this attack, Mort. Do
you
still think nothing could have been done (as you've been told), no
measures
could have been taken to thwart this style of attack?

Sure.

We could have arrested all the terrorists in the U.S. and thwarted the
attack on 9/11 (in which case they'd have activated sleeper cells or sent
others in through Canada or Mexico and 9/11 would have happened on 10/12
instead)

We could have grounded all flights that day (so we'd remember 9/12 or 9/13
instead)

Anything you can think of would *delay* the attacks on 9/11... but how would
you *stop* them?

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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 19:51:29 GMT, "copertopkiller"
wrote:


And what measures should have been taken, Bryan?

I know you have selective memory. Do try to refresh your recollection.

To the best of my recollection, you've never answered the question,
Bryan.

snicker

Loosen the flag around your head some. Now do you remember?

Hint: it has to do with FAA Regulations and NORAD

"John P." wrote in message
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"copertopkiller" wrote in a message

Lets forget about most cases and stay specific of this attack, Mort. Do
you
still think nothing could have been done (as you've been told), no
measures
could have been taken to thwart this style of attack?

Sure.

We could have arrested all the terrorists in the U.S. and thwarted the
attack on 9/11 (in which case they'd have activated sleeper cells or sent
others in through Canada or Mexico and 9/11 would have happened on 10/12
instead)

Pshycic?

We could have grounded all flights that day (so we'd remember 9/12 or 9/13
instead)

Anything you can think of would *delay* the attacks on 9/11... but how
would
you *stop* them?

1) Pat attention to the warnings of AC Highjackings AND Highjacked AC as
weapons into American Targets.

2) Brief FAA Officials of these non-actionable (cough) warnings and tell
them to not to scratch their heads at:

a) the first sign of trouble

b) when it is know to be highjacked

only to talk amongst themselves. Instead, clarify that they are to expedite
FAA Procedures of intercept then contact The President. If the errant,
Highjacked AC would not follow intercept orders a decision could be made to
take more drastic measures. It isn't that difficult.

After all there was all kinds of information about planes as weapons.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/t...irdefense.html

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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 19:51:28 GMT, "copertopkiller"
wrote:


So now we're down to just an "indication of a 9/11 style attack? I
thought your position was that the government knew when, where, how
and by whom.

snicker

Well, is that your position or not?

snicker
You really need to ask again? Like I said, you are not a bright bulb.

"Morton Davis" wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 19:51:28 GMT, "copertopkiller"
wrote:


So now we're down to just an "indication of a 9/11 style attack? I
thought your position was that the government knew when, where, how
and by whom.

snicker

Well, is that your position or not?



It's "position" is: hands over eyes so he can truley say he can't see
reality.

-*MORT*-

Said the moron who thinks the exact target, day and time needs to be known
before measures can be taken. And lets be very clear about this. No measures
where taken. I don't care if Dick Clarkes Policy's weren't implemented. It
doesn't matter if Condi said that they were working on a strategy to hit AL
Queda. These are two different things. What did your government do, the
Booshies, what did they do to defend America on 9/11

That's as preposterous as it can get. You dopers should expect more from
your government than we didn't know when, where or how...bwahahahah

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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 00:38:53 GMT, "copertopkiller"
wrote:


"Morton Davis" wrote in message
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Seems someone needs to look at a map. America is one big place. The
best I
can gather from the 9/11 commission hearings is that there were vague
warnings that an attack MIGHT happen SOMEWHERE in the USA SOMETIME,
SOMEHOW,
SOMEWAY, by SOMEBODY.

-*MORT*-

Seems you are another moron who thinks the exact target, day and time
needs
to be known before measures can be taken.

And what measures should have been taken, Bryan?


He has no idea.. but it should have been something! Damnit!

But how much ya wana bet that he gets all tense and turns red
because of the new rules put in place to attempt to stop the
next attack. And would have been just jumping up and down
if Bush would have tried to pass the patriot act before 9/11..
I would also bet that if Bush would have suggested that the FBI
and the CIA gather files, and collaborate on anti American activities
of Islamic groups that have made threats , he would have blown
out a heart valve... before 9/11....

"copertopkiller" wrote in message
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"RD (The Sandman)" wrote in message
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copertopkiller wrote:

"Morton Davis" wrote in message
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Seems someone needs to look at a map. America is one big place. The
best
I
can gather from the 9/11 commission hearings is that there were vague
warnings that an attack MIGHT happen SOMEWHERE in the USA SOMETIME,

SOMEHOW,

SOMEWAY, by SOMEBODY.

-*MORT*-


Seems you are another moron who thinks the exact target, day and time
needs
to be known before measures can be taken.

In most cases, to stop a specific attack that is correct.

Lets forget about most cases and stay specific of this attack, Mort. Do
you
still think nothing could have been done (as you've been told), no
measures
could have been taken to thwart this style of attack?

Yes something could have been done.. But what would have been your position
before 9/11 if you heard on the News that there was a non specific threat
so we were placing armed troops in airports and transportation centers and
allowing the FBI to exchange files on people with the CIA and other agencies
of the government and allowing air and wire taps of nation wide
communications.
Along with placing a couple hundred armed attack aircraft and various AA
batteries
around the country and maybe in your neighborhood... You would be required
to
have your shoes searched and your flights delayed because the airports were
going
to search your stuff using security people. If you fly you would expect a
major
cost increase to provide for replacing doors and your pilots are to allow a
hijacker to kill you instead of doing as the hijackers demand.

I think your views on the actions taken since 9/11 to prevent the next
attack
are an indication as to what they would have been before 9/11

"John P." wrote in message
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"copertopkiller" wrote in a message

Seems you are another moron who thinks the exact target, day and time
needs
to be known before measures can be taken.

OK. What would you propose might have been done with this information that
might have stopped the 9/11 attacks?

Let me help you out a little he
When I was in the Navy, ships would often do training exercises with the
SEAL teams. They would notify us that they were going to attack the ship
on
a given date between certain hours (usually about a 4 hour window). During
the planned time, we would station extra people on watch all over the ship
&
the pier. We never once stopped them from succeeding. You looked for
divers
or mini subs and they came in on mini helos. They came up the pier in a
Krispy Kreme donut truck. They created diversions in two areas and entered
via a third. They came in high speed boats with weapons blazing, or they
silently climed the side of the ship right under your feet.

When someone is dedicated to completing their task and dying is not a
concern, there isn't a thing you can do to stop them.

What would you propose?




You are pointing out the way the left have approached this since
the beginning... Not one of the lefts talking heads I have heard have
put forth a even semi lucid plan that would have prevented 9/11
or a plan to prevent the next 9/11.. or to stop any of the groups
aligned against us.. But they yell and scream that the plan we
are following is Bad, bad, bad....
Its the " I don't know what to do but DamNit! do sumthin!!! and do it
Fast! Don't wait to figure out if it does more harm than good...." kinda
mind set that annoys the hell outa me....

"Paul Mays" wrote in message
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You are pointing out the way the left have approached this since
the beginning... Not one of the lefts talking heads I have heard have
put forth a even semi lucid plan that would have prevented 9/11
or a plan to prevent the next 9/11.. or to stop any of the groups
aligned against us.. But they yell and scream that the plan we
are following is Bad, bad, bad....
Its the " I don't know what to do but DamNit! do sumthin!!! and do it
Fast! Don't wait to figure out if it does more harm than good...." kinda
mind set that annoys the hell outa me....

The lunatic left has the taken the simultaneous positions that B.J. Clinton
made terrorism this top priority, while he virtually ignored it; that
George W. Bush should have prevented Nine Eleven, and that Bush has done too
much in reaction to the events of Nine Eleven. The lunatic left can no
more see straight that Ted Kennedy can see his own belt buckle with the
benefit of a mirror.

David