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What is this called? Some sort of sealing for aileron surface



 
 
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Old April 8th 19, 11:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Senna Van den Bosch
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I'm seeing this more and more but have no idea what they're called. Refer to this pictu https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/6/53013_1459261993.jpg
This was Stefan Langer's Libelle, it's got those black plastic(?) thing at the aileron and wing. So does this Cirrus: https://cdn.airplane-pictures.net/im.../14/975766.jpg

What are they called and do they help in performance? Would it be worth installing?
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Old April 8th 19, 12:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dave Walsh[_2_]
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At 10:58 08 April 2019, Senna Van den Bosch wrote:
I'm seeing this more and more but have no idea what they're

called. Refer
to this pictu

https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/6/53013_1459261993.jpg
This was Stefan Langer's Libelle, it's got those black plastic(?)

thing at
the aileron and wing. So does this Cirrus:
https://cdn.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-

images/2017/10/14/975766.jpg

What are they called and do they help in performance? Would it

be worth
installing?

They are aerodynamic "fences". Standard on inboard end of
flaps/faperons on many gliders, DG800, Antares and others.
All mods make you go faster, no?

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Old April 8th 19, 12:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)
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Default What is this called? Some sort of sealing for aileron surface

Yes, they're typically called fences. They attempt to keep higher pressure air from the bottom of the wing from going past a control surface when you move a flight control.
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Old April 8th 19, 03:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Senna Van den Bosch
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Op maandag 8 april 2019 13:30:06 UTC+2 schreef Dave Walsh:
At 10:58 08 April 2019, Senna Van den Bosch wrote:
I'm seeing this more and more but have no idea what they're

called. Refer
to this pictu

https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/6/53013_1459261993.jpg
This was Stefan Langer's Libelle, it's got those black plastic(?)

thing at
the aileron and wing. So does this Cirrus:
https://cdn.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-

images/2017/10/14/975766.jpg

What are they called and do they help in performance? Would it

be worth
installing?

They are aerodynamic "fences". Standard on inboard end of
flaps/faperons on many gliders, DG800, Antares and others.
All mods make you go faster, no?


I've googled a bit and found this document testing the effect of those fences: https://tu-dresden.de/ing/maschinenw...TS.pdf?lang=en

Fairly neglectable, even 5 pairs of fences were teste: "...the loss in overall performance by applying for
example four additional pairs of fences on the
wings of an ASW-28 (Fig. 1). The result was a
decrease in maximum L/D of about 0.25 points
for a singe pair of fences..."

Worth the read
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Old April 8th 19, 05:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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These aileron fences do not help performance. They may help with some other issues:
1) most gliders require counter-aileron while circling. The fences prevent ailerons from being sucked to the upper side when the aileron is deflected. The suction is applied by beginning airflow seperation at high angles of attack. This issue exists with some older gliders (e.g. LS1, Libelle) when getting close to stall while circling.
2) slight improvement of aileron authority
3) improve airflow on wing/fuselage intersection on flapped gliders
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Old April 9th 19, 08:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default What is this called? Some sort of sealing for aileron surface

Op maandag 8 april 2019 18:23:48 UTC+2 schreef :
These aileron fences do not help performance. They may help with some other issues:
1) most gliders require counter-aileron while circling. The fences prevent ailerons from being sucked to the upper side when the aileron is deflected. The suction is applied by beginning airflow seperation at high angles of attack. This issue exists with some older gliders (e.g. LS1, Libelle) when getting close to stall while circling.
2) slight improvement of aileron authority
3) improve airflow on wing/fuselage intersection on flapped gliders


I'm owner of a DG-101, would it be interesting to fit them? I know a few Std Cirrus and Std Libelles which have them fitted.
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Old April 9th 19, 01:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default What is this called? Some sort of sealing for aileron surface

Difficult to use with wing covers.
I found out the hard way on my Nimbus 3.
ROY

 




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