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Old September 12th 04, 10:59 AM
Iwan Bogels
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Default MiG-29 crash on take off

Do you know what happens to pilots who try to impress the camera crew,
waiting half way the runway for a spectacular take-off shot ? Well, look
for yourself at http://www.dappa.nl/crash.htm.

Don't worry about any blood stains or casualties, there is only going to be
material damage and a pilot with a severely brused ego.

For those who are interested, we are collecting aviation mishap, accident
and crash video footage for personal use. If you have another video clip for
us, or if you can point us in the right direction on where to find it, we
would appreciate to hear from you. Our address is .

Aviation minded greetings,

Iwan


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Old September 12th 04, 11:23 AM
Dave Kearton
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"Iwan Bogels" wrote in message
...
| Do you know what happens to pilots who try to impress the camera crew,
| waiting half way the runway for a spectacular take-off shot ? Well, look
| for yourself at http://www.dappa.nl/crash.htm.
|
| Don't worry about any blood stains or casualties, there is only going to
be
| material damage and a pilot with a severely brused ego.
|
| For those who are interested, we are collecting aviation mishap, accident
| and crash video footage for personal use. If you have another video clip
for
| us, or if you can point us in the right direction on where to find it, we
| would appreciate to hear from you. Our address is .
|
| Aviation minded greetings,
|
| Iwan




I wonder if the ejection seat failed as well ......


....hardly seems like a MiG demo without firing the bang seat.






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Cheers


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Old September 12th 04, 11:51 AM
Iwan Bogels
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Hi Dave,

It seems to me that he just climbed out, as you can see the opened canopy at
the end (not blown off by the ejection).

Funny video though....

Cheers,
Iwan


"Dave Kearton" schreef in
bericht ...
"Iwan Bogels" wrote in message
...
| Do you know what happens to pilots who try to impress the camera crew,
| waiting half way the runway for a spectacular take-off shot ? Well,

look
| for yourself at http://www.dappa.nl/crash.htm.
|
| Don't worry about any blood stains or casualties, there is only going to
be
| material damage and a pilot with a severely brused ego.
|
| For those who are interested, we are collecting aviation mishap,

accident
| and crash video footage for personal use. If you have another video clip
for
| us, or if you can point us in the right direction on where to find it,

we
| would appreciate to hear from you. Our address is .
|
| Aviation minded greetings,
|
| Iwan




I wonder if the ejection seat failed as well ......


....hardly seems like a MiG demo without firing the bang seat.






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Cheers


Dave Kearton




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Old September 12th 04, 12:21 PM
John Carrier
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Very similar incident occurred during VF-211 (IIRC, might have been 24) gun
det in El Centro many years ago. F-8J, low transition, and a not quite
enough airspeed prior to gear retraction. At least no video evidence for
posterity.

R / John

"Iwan Bogels" wrote in message
...
Do you know what happens to pilots who try to impress the camera crew,
waiting half way the runway for a spectacular take-off shot ? Well, look
for yourself at http://www.dappa.nl/crash.htm.

Don't worry about any blood stains or casualties, there is only going to
be
material damage and a pilot with a severely brused ego.

For those who are interested, we are collecting aviation mishap, accident
and crash video footage for personal use. If you have another video clip
for
us, or if you can point us in the right direction on where to find it, we
would appreciate to hear from you. Our address is .

Aviation minded greetings,

Iwan




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Old September 12th 04, 11:07 PM
Spag
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His gear appeared to drop towards the end. Would he have hit the control in
the hope he could "prop" up the a/c or would that have been a release
because of impact damage?

Spag
"John Carrier" wrote in message
...
Very similar incident occurred during VF-211 (IIRC, might have been 24)
gun det in El Centro many years ago. F-8J, low transition, and a not
quite enough airspeed prior to gear retraction. At least no video
evidence for posterity.

R / John

"Iwan Bogels" wrote in message
...
Do you know what happens to pilots who try to impress the camera crew,
waiting half way the runway for a spectacular take-off shot ? Well, look
for yourself at http://www.dappa.nl/crash.htm.

Don't worry about any blood stains or casualties, there is only going to
be
material damage and a pilot with a severely brused ego.

For those who are interested, we are collecting aviation mishap, accident
and crash video footage for personal use. If you have another video clip
for
us, or if you can point us in the right direction on where to find it, we
would appreciate to hear from you. Our address is .

Aviation minded greetings,

Iwan






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Old September 12th 04, 11:18 PM
B2431
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From: "Iwan Bogels"
Date: 9/12/2004 4:59 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

Do you know what happens to pilots who try to impress the camera crew,
waiting half way the runway for a spectacular take-off shot ? Well, look
for yourself at
http://www.dappa.nl/crash.htm.

Don't worry about any blood stains or casualties, there is only going to be
material damage and a pilot with a severely brused ego.


There were blood stains and casualties?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old September 13th 04, 12:05 AM
J Haggerty
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B2431 wrote:

From: "Iwan Bogels"
Date: 9/12/2004 4:59 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

Do you know what happens to pilots who try to impress the camera crew,
waiting half way the runway for a spectacular take-off shot ? Well, look
for yourself at
http://www.dappa.nl/crash.htm.

Don't worry about any blood stains or casualties, there is only going to be
material damage and a pilot with a severely brused ego.



There were blood stains and casualties?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


No. You "don't have to worry about blood stains and casualties" because
"there is only going to be material damage and a pilot with a severely
bruised ego."

JPH
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Old September 13th 04, 01:48 AM
Jim Thomas
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Looks to me like he raised his gear too soon (maybe overrode the
weight-on-gear (WOG) switch that prevents the overeager from doing
such things on most fighters), and settled on his belly.

Jim Thomas


"Iwan Bogels" wrote in message ...
Do you know what happens to pilots who try to impress the camera crew,
waiting half way the runway for a spectacular take-off shot ? Well, look
for yourself at http://www.dappa.nl/crash.htm.

Don't worry about any blood stains or casualties, there is only going to be
material damage and a pilot with a severely brused ego.

For those who are interested, we are collecting aviation mishap, accident
and crash video footage for personal use. If you have another video clip for
us, or if you can point us in the right direction on where to find it, we
would appreciate to hear from you. Our address is .

Aviation minded greetings,

Iwan

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Old September 13th 04, 05:50 PM
John Mullen
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"Jim Thomas" wrote in message
om...
Looks to me like he raised his gear too soon (maybe overrode the
weight-on-gear (WOG) switch that prevents the overeager from doing
such things on most fighters), and settled on his belly.


Or else too steep a pull up and not enough speed. A commuter airliner once
did something similar through not using flap on take off, but I dont suppose
that would be a factor here.

Great video!

John


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Old September 14th 04, 03:36 AM
miket6065
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I remember this crash from some time ago. It was explained that a hot dog
pilot tried to retract the gear at basically zero-zero altitude and then
pull up. But he screwed up the timing and the aircraft dropped downwards
and he couldn't recover.

If memory serves the plane was picked by a crane, the gear extened, bad
panel work replaced and it flew in a short period of time.

The Russians build them rugged.

MikeT


 




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