pilots only, please - gps or altimeter?

houstondan wrote:

gps(not waas) says nearest airport of any kind is 30 minutes away and
gas-totalizer says the fan stops in 10 minutes.

not mountainous but you ain't in kansas either todo...whatcha gunna
do??

The totalizer is reporting run-time at cruise power. I would throttle
back, lean agressively and fly at best glide + maybe 10 knots (or whatever
would give me best endurance) and contact somebody for help.

Kontiki,

contact somebody for help.


What kind of help would that be? A refuelling tanker? The
movable-airport squad?

I have a hard time understanding the focus on communication.

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"houstondan" wrote in message
oups.com...
rather than hijack a perfectly good arcane science thread; i'll start a
new one 'cause the core question is a darn good one.

hypothetical situation: you're a blue sky vfr flyer and somehow you
wind up in the soup - after having gone 2 hours and 200 miles from your
take-off point , you wake up from a nice little nap and discover you're
inside the milk bottle.

gps(not waas) says nearest airport of any kind is 30 minutes away and
gas-totalizer says the fan stops in 10 minutes.

not mountainous but you ain't in kansas either todo...whatcha gunna
do??

really.

dan

Ten minutes worth of fuel??? Solution: Land an hour ago and refuel.

Not an option? Stand up on the seat and kiss your ass goodbye. After the
cremation, all the other pilots that have to share the sky with you can
breathe a sigh of relief.

Thank you birdog!!!
There is no reason whatsoever a real pilot would/should get into a
situation where there is only 10 mins left worth of fuel. NO matter
what. That is why this is a silly question. But if this was to happen
The declaration of an emergency is required. Have some others help....
period then do as birdog says bendover and kiss your ass goodbye

matt
birdog wrote:
"houstondan" wrote in message
oups.com...
rather than hijack a perfectly good arcane science thread; i'll start a
new one 'cause the core question is a darn good one.

hypothetical situation: you're a blue sky vfr flyer and somehow you
wind up in the soup - after having gone 2 hours and 200 miles from your
take-off point , you wake up from a nice little nap and discover you're
inside the milk bottle.

gps(not waas) says nearest airport of any kind is 30 minutes away and
gas-totalizer says the fan stops in 10 minutes.

not mountainous but you ain't in kansas either todo...whatcha gunna
do??

really.

dan

Ten minutes worth of fuel??? Solution: Land an hour ago and refuel.

Not an option? Stand up on the seat and kiss your ass goodbye. After the
cremation, all the other pilots that have to share the sky with you can
breathe a sigh of relief.

I am trying to understand why Andrew and kontiki are the only two with
the correct answer.

"john smith" wrote in message
I am trying to understand why Andrew and kontiki are the only two with
the correct answer.

Because Mr. Huck and Mr. birdog haven't had their moment yet. There are
reasons for fuel exhaustion beyond a pilot's control. They should feel lucky
that they can continue with their arrogant self-righteousness. Fly long
enough and s**t happens.

D.

On 12 Nov 2006 13:02:38 -0800, "Huck" wrote:

There is no reason whatsoever a real pilot would/should get into a
situation where there is only 10 mins left worth of fuel. NO matter
what.

Medical emergency. Pilot passes out with autopilot running, comes to just
before the fuel runs out. IIRC, it was an incident like this that got the late
Gordon Baxter to finally quit flying.

You won't find too many people who'll say that Gordon Baxter wasn't a "real
pilot."

Ron Wanttaja

On 2006-11-12, birdog wrote:
Ten minutes worth of fuel??? Solution: Land an hour ago and refuel.

Not an option? Stand up on the seat and kiss your ass goodbye. After the
cremation, all the other pilots that have to share the sky with you can
breathe a sigh of relief.

That's incredibly defeatist - NEVER GIVE UP! If you just accept defeat
like that when faced with an emergency, well, you probably are going to
die. There's no need to 'kiss your ass goodbye' in these situations: you
*still* have enough fuel to do something, even if that's only to get
below the clouds and look for the least worst crash location. You're
more likely to survive (and unhurt) if you fly it till it stops, rather
than just throwing up your hands and giving up. NEVER ever give up.
Never!

The original question posed indicated that the pilot had fallen asleep
at the yoke (perhaps medical incapacitation, or carbon monoxide in the
cabin) and had awoken in IMC with only 10 minutes fuel remaining.

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Frankly this would qualify the pilot for the Darwin Award for being
inept. Then look at the GPS moving map/charts for a little used road.
You have no right to jeopardize others on the ground so whatever
landing surface is available that reduces the risk to you and
eliminates risk to others on the ground is what you have to deal with.

Of course other factors play into this.

Ron Lee

"houstondan" wrote in message
oups.com...
rather than hijack a perfectly good arcane science thread; i'll start a
new one 'cause the core question is a darn good one.

hypothetical situation: you're a blue sky vfr flyer and somehow you
wind up in the soup - after having gone 2 hours and 200 miles from your
take-off point , you wake up from a nice little nap and discover you're
inside the milk bottle.

gps(not waas) says nearest airport of any kind is 30 minutes away and
gas-totalizer says the fan stops in 10 minutes.

not mountainous but you ain't in kansas either todo...whatcha gunna
do??

really.

dan


Die.

Really.

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