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Ahhh - so we blame you for the hot spot on the early models! )
I was referring more to the concept - I took a wild stab at the price (which was clearly way out) (actually, having just had to defend someone over a similar thing I should have known better!) - should have kept prices out of it in retrospect. I guess it comes down to the age-old-saying "you get what you pay for". "Marc J. Zeitlin" wrote in message news:PpOwd.589967$D%.177216@attbi_s51... Cockpit Colin wrote: ..... Bose will use more expensive parts and put more into R & D - but it probably still doesn't cost them more than $50 per unit (not counting R & D). Yes, they make a high margin, but that will be offset by the fact that they don't sell as many of them. I have no clue whatsoever what it costs Lightspeed to manufacture their headsets. However, having worked on the Bose X as a mechanical engineer as they were being designed and released to manufacturing, I've got a VERY good idea what the manufacturing costs of the Bose X are, and it's nowhere NEAR $50. When they were released in early 1999, the manufacturing cost (including amortization of tooling, which was to run three years), was about $320/unit. Amortization of tooling was about $30/unit. I would have to assume that in the intervening 5 years there's been some cost reduction effort, but I'd be VERY surprised, given how little the design has changes, if the manufacturing cost is below $250/unit at this point. And no, I no longer work there and get headsets cheap :-). -- Marc J. Zeitlin http://marc.zeitlin.home.comcast.net/ http://www.cozybuilders.org/ Copyright (c) 2004 |
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Well done! I've been able to influence a couple of manufacturers on the odd
occasion - it's a good feeling to know you've helped out. "Kyler Laird" wrote in message ... "Cockpit Colin" writes: With the Boise, I tend to get a hot spot on top of my head after several hours of wearing them. This was an issue with the very early models - I believe that they have a free upgrage kit available, if you're interested. Long story...I put a patch of sheepskin (which came as a sample for seat covers) on my wife's set after she complained about the "hot spot". It solved the problem. I mentioned it to Bose. They rolled out the upgrade (with a solution to my battery box complaint too). It impressed me. --kyler |
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Cockpit Colin wrote:
Ahhh - so we blame you for the hot spot on the early models! ) No, no, no :-). I got there about 6 months before release, so the DESIGN was already fixed. The only stuff that I got to work on was the stuff that just absolutely didn't work, and manufacturing stuff (so that we could actually build and sell them - what a concept :-) ). I only fixed stuff - I never broke it :-). As an aside, the Bose I and Bose II series headsets never made money - they never even broke even. The Series X is a good moneymaker for Bose. I guess it comes down to the age-old-saying "you get what you pay for". Well, sort of. Bose is, how shall we say, not the most cost effective company from an overhead standpoint. I have no doubt that in a company that had better control of overhead, and better manufacturing/materials control, the ~$300/unit could have been brought down to $200/unit, but it's not going to get much cheaper than that with the current design. Magnesium headbands and aluminum staples, along with very high quality microphones and connectors cost $$$..... -- Marc J. Zeitlin http://marc.zeitlin.home.comcast.net/ http://www.cozybuilders.org/ Copyright (c) 2004 |
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