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  #21  
Old February 23rd 07, 05:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Jay Honeck
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That is a different problem and is the one that should be addressed, not
providing early retirement for teachers.


So, what are you saying, Matt? That an actuarial system should be
devised that allows every 55 year old to be able to retire with full
pension? Or only teachers?

IMHO, the former is impossible, while the latter is unfair and silly.
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Old February 23rd 07, 01:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Matt Whiting
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Jay Honeck wrote:

That is a different problem and is the one that should be addressed, not
providing early retirement for teachers.



So, what are you saying, Matt? That an actuarial system should be
devised that allows every 55 year old to be able to retire with full
pension? Or only teachers?


No, I'm saying the classroom environment should be fixed so that
teachers last more than 5 years in the profession and don't need to
retire at age 55 due to burn-out.

Matt
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Old February 23rd 07, 03:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Gig 601XL Builder
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Matt Whiting wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote:

That is a different problem and is the one that should be
addressed, not providing early retirement for teachers.



So, what are you saying, Matt? That an actuarial system should be
devised that allows every 55 year old to be able to retire with full
pension? Or only teachers?


No, I'm saying the classroom environment should be fixed so that
teachers last more than 5 years in the profession and don't need to
retire at age 55 due to burn-out.

Matt


There are several factors other than burn-out that lead to that 5 year in
the profession figure. My son is now in 9th grade. Looking back at his
elementary teachers 1-5th grade teachers look like this as far a careers go.

1st- She was in her second year teaching. 1 year after my son was in her
class he got married and pregnant and stayed home with her new baby. Hasn't
returned to teaching.

2nd- Been there for many years and was in her mid 30s still teaching.

3rd- 2nd year teaching and that was 2 years too many she quit teaching and
went on to something else.

4th- Retired the next year at age 65.

5th- Had been teaching 2 or 3 years, got married the next year and became a
stay at home wife.

The point I'm getting to is that teachers change careers like lots of people
and for a number of reasons.


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Old February 23rd 07, 06:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Jay Honeck
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The point I'm getting to is that teachers change careers like lots of people
and for a number of reasons.


The latest figures I've seen say that a child born today will have 13
different jobs in their lifetime.

Things sure have changed since I was born in '58. When I was growing
up, it was just expected that you'd start working for a company, and
die there 45 years later...

Anyway, the point is that no 55 year-old person should be
contemplating "retirement" in 2007. I have no plans to *ever*
retire, but -- assuming that eventually health reasons will prevail --
I certainly don't want to become a burden on society until I am
physically forced to be.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old February 23rd 07, 07:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Jay Masino
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Anyway, the point is that no 55 year-old person should be
contemplating "retirement" in 2007.


That's weird, I'm only 44 and not a day goes by where I don't
contemplate retirement. I'm pretty sure I won't work past 59 1/2 (401K
withdraw age) unless I get some airport related "retirement job".

--- Jay


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Old February 23rd 07, 07:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Ross
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Jay Masino wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote:

Anyway, the point is that no 55 year-old person should be
contemplating "retirement" in 2007.



That's weird, I'm only 44 and not a day goes by where I don't
contemplate retirement. I'm pretty sure I won't work past 59 1/2 (401K
withdraw age) unless I get some airport related "retirement job".

--- Jay



Curious, what is your plans for insurance? However, you are only 44 and
a lot can change. I am 61 and that is a concern. My company has good
insurance plan. It would be costly to retire, but I am ready.

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Old February 23rd 07, 08:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Bob Noel
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In article . com,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Anyway, the point is that no 55 year-old person should be
contemplating "retirement" in 2007. I have no plans to *ever*
retire, but -- assuming that eventually health reasons will prevail --
I certainly don't want to become a burden on society until I am
physically forced to be.


I'm looking forward to retirement... but in my case I'll be depending
on my retirement account.

There's lots of things I'd like to do, especially when compared to
working in a (*@#&$(* cubicle.

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Old February 23rd 07, 10:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Dan Luke
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"Jay Masino" wrote:

Anyway, the point is that no 55 year-old person should be
contemplating "retirement" in 2007.


That's weird, I'm only 44 and not a day goes by where I don't
contemplate retirement. I'm pretty sure I won't work past 59 1/2 (401K
withdraw age)


That's what I said when I was 44.

As things turned out, I could have retired comfortably at 55. Now, I've just
turned 60 and am planning to cash out in two years...but that's what I said
two years ago.

Retirement can be scary when you actually face it.

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Dan
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Old February 24th 07, 03:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Margy Natalie
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Jay Honeck wrote:
The point I'm getting to is that teachers change careers like lots of people
and for a number of reasons.



The latest figures I've seen say that a child born today will have 13
different jobs in their lifetime.

Things sure have changed since I was born in '58. When I was growing
up, it was just expected that you'd start working for a company, and
die there 45 years later...

Anyway, the point is that no 55 year-old person should be
contemplating "retirement" in 2007. I have no plans to *ever*
retire, but -- assuming that eventually health reasons will prevail --
I certainly don't want to become a burden on society until I am
physically forced to be.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay,

If someone retires at 70 after working 30 years at a company (or govt.
agency) would it be different than 55 and working 30 years?

Margy
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Old February 24th 07, 03:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Vaughn Simon
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...

As things turned out, I could have retired comfortably at 55. Now, I've just
turned 60 and am planning to cash out in two years...but that's what I said
two years ago.

Retirement can be scary when you actually face it.


And expensive when you actually look at everything that is involved,
particularly medical insurance. I am now 6 years past my retirement date, and
still working the same job. I am now working for 19% of my pay, for benefits,
(that is the main thing) and for a small increment (2.2% per year) on my future
retirement pay.

I suppose it would pay me to go ahead and collect my pension and look for
another job with benefits ... but I HAVE a job.

Vaughn




 




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