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Old August 25th 05, 02:11 AM
Ron Rosenfeld
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Are ADF's required outside of the United States?

I had a demo flight in a new Mooney Ovation2GX the other day. Quite a nice
airplane, by the way. Afterwards, looking at the price list, I noted an
ADF add-on for the Garmin G1000 panel as $15,500 (it's a Becker ADF, for
those who are interested; supposed to be accurate to 3° at some specified
signal strength).

Since the technology seems to be becoming outdated in the US, I wondered if
it was required elsewhere.

Thanks.
Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)
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Old August 25th 05, 01:09 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Ron,

Are ADF's required outside of the United States?


In Germany, ADFs are required for IFR training aircraft. This is
different from the UK, as Peter posted.

DMEs are required for IFR flying. No substitution by GPS. Yes, I
know...

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old August 25th 05, 03:07 PM
Ron Rosenfeld
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:09:10 +0200, Thomas Borchert
wrote:

Ron,

Are ADF's required outside of the United States?


In Germany, ADFs are required for IFR training aircraft. This is
different from the UK, as Peter posted.

DMEs are required for IFR flying. No substitution by GPS. Yes, I
know...


So do the Diamond a/c with the G1000 being sold in Europe have both DME and
ADF as part of the package? For the Mooney Ovation2GX, that's $9,900 +
$15,500 USD for something that's of marginal utility outside the country.

Of course, that's the factory installed price. It can be quite a bit
cheaper to have those units installed after-market.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)
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Old August 26th 05, 07:18 PM
Julian Scarfe
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
...

In Germany, ADFs are required for IFR training aircraft. This is
different from the UK, as Peter posted.

DMEs are required for IFR flying. No substitution by GPS. Yes, I
know...


Related question then...

Some German airports (with class F) appear only to have GPS approaches,
which, according to the plates, require some sort of qualification. Is
there a practical way for a foreign pilot not based in Germany to get that
qualification?

Julian


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Old August 27th 05, 05:50 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Julian,

Some German airports (with class F) appear only to have GPS approaches,
which, according to the plates, require some sort of qualification. Is
there a practical way for a foreign pilot not based in Germany to get that
qualification?


Excellent question. I'm just starting on my German IR, so I don't know. I
believe it is a simple check out/endorsement from a CFI.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

 




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