Best modern jet fighter

"Icarus" wrote in message
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Yes, a nice air show demonstration. Whats the COMBAT record of the
Su-27
again?

That was a dogfight simulation between Su 27 and F-15...if those had been
real missiles and not a simulated ones F-15 would have ended up in flames.

Supposition not based on actual facts. What is the Su-27s ACTUAL combat
record?

Yet the F-15 has a 120-0 kill record, mostly against Soviet airplanes.
Hmmmm. . . .

FYI a Yugoslavian MiG 29 shot down one F-15..

Cite?

In 99% of cases, Soviet
airplanes were never flown by Soviet/Russian pilots but by pilots who
often
lacked proper training..

Really? How did they not get proper training? They went to Soviet-designed
schools, with Soviet instructors.

Not even the Soviet instructors could make a
difference

You do know that this doesn't make your case. If the Soviet Instructors
aren't capable of training, how can they be any good?

Yes, very interesting that the Soviets designed ejection seats that
way -
almost as if they assumed from the beginning that their planes would get
shot down in droves.

I guess safety and human lives mean nothing to you...\

I guess you totally don't get sarcasm. Thanks for playing.

I note it wasn't an F-15.
I see the F-15s shot down 3 MiG-25s. How many F-15s did the Mig-25s
shoot
down? Oh, whats that? ZERO, you say. Hmmmm . .

FYI-MiG 25 was primarily a Soviet version of SR 71,

Bzzzzz! Wrong answer. Try again.

it isn't a fighter.

Its an interceptor, which is what the F-15 was also designed to be. Recce
models of the 25 came AFTER.

I guess you totally don't get sarcasm. Thanks for playing.

Bzzzzz! Wrong answer. Try again.

I see you have studied at the John Tarver school of Usenet skills.

John

"John Mullen" wrote in message
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I guess you totally don't get sarcasm. Thanks for playing.

Bzzzzz! Wrong answer. Try again.

I see you have studied at the John Tarver school of Usenet skills.

Awwwwww, did his little feelings get hurt with the truth?

"Ragnar" wrote in message
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"John Mullen" wrote in message
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I guess you totally don't get sarcasm. Thanks for playing.

Bzzzzz! Wrong answer. Try again.

I see you have studied at the John Tarver school of Usenet skills.

Awwwwww, did his little feelings get hurt with the truth?


You mean my little feelings? LOL no. I have seen plenty worse manners than
yours before.

I merely observed that you and the much-missed JT seem to share a lot of
vocabulary in common.

John

I see you have studied at the John Tarver school of Usenet skills.

Perhaps Ragnar should have learnt to read between the lines instead of
dwelling on a single fact...the way he manages to miss the point is far
beyond anything I've seen...Not much proper arguments from his side...guess
the John Tarver school can't teach you how to be intelligent, only short
sighted...if that's the case than Mr. Ragnar is an excellent student...

Oh...almost forgot...of over five MiG 25 variants only one is classified as
an interceptor...don't bzzz off too soon, you don't want to go off half
cocked...

"Icarus" wrote in message
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Oh...almost forgot...of over five MiG 25 variants only one is classified
as
an interceptor...don't bzzz off too soon, you don't want to go off half
cocked...

I see you failed to mention that the MiG-25 was never developed to be a
competitor of the SR-71. The first model was specifically designed to be an
interceptor. All other models were afterthoughts. And even as
afterthoughts, they were never intended nor used as competitors to the
SR-71. They didn't have the range, ceiling, speed, or sensors to compete.

Like I said befo Bzzzzzt! Wrong answer. Try again.

They didn't have the range, ceiling, speed, or sensors to compete.

Well, enlight me, guess you could tell me max height and speed MiG 25 can
develop... It shouldn't pose a problem for you...

"John Mullen" wrote in message
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"Ragnar" wrote in message
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"John Mullen" wrote in message
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I guess you totally don't get sarcasm. Thanks for playing.

Bzzzzz! Wrong answer. Try again.

I see you have studied at the John Tarver school of Usenet skills.

Awwwwww, did his little feelings get hurt with the truth?


You mean my little feelings? LOL no. I have seen plenty worse manners than
yours before.

I merely observed that you and the much-missed JT seem to share a lot of
vocabulary in common.

Except that I'm not an answer-bot like Tarver.

"Ragnar" wrote in message ...
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"Ragnar" wrote in message
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"John Mullen" wrote in message
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I guess you totally don't get sarcasm. Thanks for playing.

Bzzzzz! Wrong answer. Try again.

I see you have studied at the John Tarver school of Usenet skills.

Awwwwww, did his little feelings get hurt with the truth?


You mean my little feelings? LOL no. I have seen plenty worse manners than
yours before.

I merely observed that you and the much-missed JT seem to share a lot of
vocabulary in common.

Except that I'm not an answer-bot like Tarver.

Hmm. Even that 'answer-bot' sounds like one of his phrases.

I'm afraid I will still think of you as 'son-of-Tarver' until or
unless you can come up with a more adult way of dealing with people.



John

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"Ragnar" wrote in message
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"John Mullen" wrote in message
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"Ragnar" wrote in message
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"John Mullen" wrote in message
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I guess you totally don't get sarcasm. Thanks for playing.

Bzzzzz! Wrong answer. Try again.

I see you have studied at the John Tarver school of Usenet skills.

Awwwwww, did his little feelings get hurt with the truth?


You mean my little feelings? LOL no. I have seen plenty worse manners
than
yours before.

I merely observed that you and the much-missed JT seem to share a lot
of
vocabulary in common.

Except that I'm not an answer-bot like Tarver.

Hmm. Even that 'answer-bot' sounds like one of his phrases.

I'm afraid I will still think of you as 'son-of-Tarver' until or
unless you can come up with a more adult way of dealing with people.

Bite me.