Runway demolition at Meigs continues

In article ,
wrote:

Martin, let's, for the moment, assume that *everything* President Bush
and
Tony Blair have said was a lie.

well, IMHO, most of it.
But you are free to name 2 or 3 things and prove it with links to
available
sources where he said the truth (regarding Iraq).

apply the same criteria to your claims. You claim that most of
what they said was a lie. so prove it.

--
Bob Noel

Maybe this time we'll leave you to
suffer the consequences of your own ignorance...

promise?

My family fought in two world wars, defending your land -- the same land my
people fled in the 1850s -- from aggressors.

Trust me -- if many of us have anything to say about future action in
Europe, the answer to your question will be a resounding "Yes".
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 15:42:43 GMT, Bob Noel wrote:

well, IMHO, most of it.
But you are free to name 2 or 3 things and prove it with links to
available
sources where he said the truth (regarding Iraq).

apply the same criteria to your claims. You claim that most of
what they said was a lie. so prove it.

WMD are where?
the trucks produced what?
WMD can be deployed over Europe in how many minutes?
Which African country sold uranium to Iraq?

and yes, their army was such a danger that it needed Napalm-like weapons.
Their airforce and their missiles have been the biggest threat to the area
and to the western world.
Why haven't you just nuked them? Quick and clean.

pick up google and use the news sorces of your smallest disbelieve to prove
it. Well, you could even have listened to the UN inspectors ... but what do
I know ...

best of all: you belive all this and the very best: you are on the best way
to reelect this guy who again will bring along Ashcroft and all his
right-wing [republican] church-runners.

#m

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Bombing for peace is like ****ing for virginity.

On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 15:50:58 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

Maybe this time we'll leave you to
suffer the consequences of your own ignorance...

promise?

My family fought in two world wars, defending your land

_my_ land? *bah*

Trust me -- if many of us have anything to say about future action in
Europe, the answer to your question will be a resounding "Yes".

Thank you. What a positive outcome this has.

#m
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Bombing for peace is like ****ing for virginity.

HEY EVERYONE !!!!!!

No one can change Martin's mind. It is already made up.

Religion and politics have no place in this forum.

I have no record as a net nanny, but I had to chip in on this one.
--
Jim in NC--

On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 12:25:06 -0400, Morgans wrote:

No one can change Martin's mind. It is already made up.


Actually, it changed.

Religion and politics have no place in this forum.


you're right.

#m

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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
...

well, IMHO, most of it.
But you are free to name 2 or 3 things and prove it with links to
available
sources where he said the truth (regarding Iraq).


Just as you're free to name 2 or 3 things and prove it with links to
available sources where he said an untruth (regarding Iraq).

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 15:42:43 GMT, Bob Noel wrote:

well, IMHO, most of it.
But you are free to name 2 or 3 things and prove it with links to
available
sources where he said the truth (regarding Iraq).

apply the same criteria to your claims. You claim that most of
what they said was a lie. so prove it.

WMD are where?
the trucks produced what?
WMD can be deployed over Europe in how many minutes?
Which African country sold uranium to Iraq?

I said "prove it", not ask questions. Your questions are not proof.


and yes, their army was such a danger that it needed Napalm-like weapons.

who had the napalm-like weapons?


Their airforce and their missiles have been the biggest threat to the
area
and to the western world.
Why haven't you just nuked them? Quick and clean.

nukes are not clean.

--
Bob Noel

The point is not whether or not they *ever* existed. We know they existed at
one point because we *gave* some to Iraq. The question was, and continues to
be, did Iraq pose a clear and present danger to the United States?

Iraq dismantled plants and disposed of weapons on hand because it didn't want
inspetors finding them? Let me see...I think that would mean the inspections
were working.

Did Iraq own any delivery system capable of reaching the U.S. Another no.

Is there any proof (not administration assertions, *proof*) that Iraq was
providing material assistance to terrorist organizations. Again, no.

Was Hussein oppressing his people, murdering and torturing them? You better
believe he was. Was this something to take before the world and ask their
assistance in stopping? You better believe it. Is that what we did? No way.

I want my government to give me true, honest reasons for going to war. I want
to be treated like an intelligent, rational person who is capable of listening
to the arguments and making my own decisions. I want my representatives to
listen to my concerns and take them into account when deciding to send my
friends and neighbors into harm's way and I'm not getting any of that.

Dave Reinhart


"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
...

WMD are where?


Little of them has been found to date. Does that prove to you that they
never existed? Saddam has also not yet been found, by that logic he never
existed.

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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who had the napalm-like weapons?

The US had napalm-like weapons, and used them against troops in Iraq. There
has been widespread news coverage of this fact. See, for example,
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/2382846/detail.html .