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Old May 6th 10, 09:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tim Taylor
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Default When did the OLC rules change on submission?

Just went to post a flight on OLC and I am too late only two days
after the flight. When did the rules change from three days to
Tuesday at midnight? If you fly on Monday or Tuesday you must submit
by midnight on Tuesday or not get scored, Very unreasonable change to
the system.

TT
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Old May 6th 10, 11:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan[_4_]
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Default When did the OLC rules change on submission?

On May 6, 4:33*am, Tim Taylor wrote:
Just went to post a flight on OLC and I am too late only two days
after the flight. *When did the rules change from three days to
Tuesday at midnight? *If you fly on Monday or Tuesday you must submit
by midnight on Tuesday or not get scored, *Very unreasonable change to
the system.

TT


It's been like that - not easy for us in North America - for a couple
of years - 18 Oct 2007, I believe. If you contact Doug Haluza, SSA-OLC
Admin, he can add the flight - you can look him up on the SSA member
locator.

I just cross-checked with the ssa webpage under sailplane racing -
olc, and it says: For help with submitting a claim contact us at
. They are very responsive.

My personal pet peeve is the minimum 50 point score for a flight that
counts - I think 25 is more reasonable, and leads more people away
from their home field... then they're competing with themselves to
increase the score. Darn hard to tell someone a 47 point flight just
doesn't count....

Dan
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Old May 6th 10, 11:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan[_4_]
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Default When did the OLC rules change on submission?

On May 6, 6:25*am, Dan wrote:
On May 6, 4:33*am, Tim Taylor wrote:

Just went to post a flight on OLC and I am too late only two days
after the flight. *When did the rules change from three days to
Tuesday at midnight? *If you fly on Monday or Tuesday you must submit
by midnight on Tuesday or not get scored, *Very unreasonable change to
the system.


TT


It's been like that - not easy for us in North America - for a couple
of years - 18 Oct 2007, I believe. If you contact Doug Haluza, SSA-OLC
Admin, he can add the flight - you can look him up on the SSA member
locator.

I just cross-checked with the ssa webpage under sailplane racing -
olc, and it says: For help with submitting a claim contact us at
. *They are very responsive.

My personal pet peeve is the minimum 50 point score for a flight that
counts - I think 25 is more reasonable, and leads more people away
from their home field... then they're competing with themselves to
increase the score. *Darn hard to tell someone a 47 point flight just
doesn't count....

Dan


OLC (at) ssa (dot) org
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Old May 6th 10, 04:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Greg Arnold[_3_]
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Default When did the OLC rules change on submission?

On 5/6/2010 1:33 AM, Tim Taylor wrote:
Just went to post a flight on OLC and I am too late only two days
after the flight. When did the rules change from three days to
Tuesday at midnight? If you fly on Monday or Tuesday you must submit
by midnight on Tuesday or not get scored, Very unreasonable change to
the system.

TT



Flights have to be submitted by the Tuesday following the flight. I
believe that means that a Monday flight must be submitted the next day,
while a Tuesday flight can be submitted the following Tuesday.

The Tuesday rule has been controversial in the past. It may make
perfect sense to pilots in Europe who will never land farther than 25 km
from a town. It makes less sense in the western US, where we can have
multiple day retrieves.
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Old May 6th 10, 04:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
JS
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Default When did the OLC rules change on submission?

Bummer.
After virtually watching you land out we've been waiting to see the
Utah/Idaho ridge flight...
Jim
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Old May 6th 10, 04:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tim Taylor
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Default When did the OLC rules change on submission?

On May 6, 9:43*am, JS wrote:
Bummer.
After virtually watching you land out we've been waiting to see the
Utah/Idaho ridge flight...
Jim


The flight should be available on the May 3rd OLC page, just zero
score.

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Old May 6th 10, 05:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tony[_5_]
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Default When did the OLC rules change on submission?

On May 6, 10:46*am, Tim Taylor wrote:
On May 6, 9:43*am, JS wrote:

Bummer.
After virtually watching you land out we've been waiting to see the
Utah/Idaho ridge flight...
Jim


The flight should be available on the May 3rd OLC page, just zero
score.


nice flight tim!

im curious, does anyone know the reason for the tuesday rule? why is
there any limit at all to submitting a flight? perhaps the end of the
year so they can determine the annual winner, but i don't see weekly
prizes...
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Old May 6th 10, 06:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Darryl Ramm
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Default When did the OLC rules change on submission?

On May 6, 9:34*am, Tony wrote:
On May 6, 10:46*am, Tim Taylor wrote:

On May 6, 9:43*am, JS wrote:


Bummer.
After virtually watching you land out we've been waiting to see the
Utah/Idaho ridge flight...
Jim


The flight should be available on the May 3rd OLC page, just zero
score.


nice flight tim!

im curious, does anyone know the reason for the tuesday rule? *why is
there any limit at all to submitting a flight? perhaps the end of the
year so they can determine the annual winner, but i don't see weekly
prizes...


I beleive to encourage pilots to post within a reasonable time, before
next weekend, to let them know other pilots flights/rankings and I
suspect to allow some time to sort out problems before the next
weekend.

No time limit would be no way to run an online contest. You would have
some pilots saving their best flights to the day before the contest
closed and submitting them then.

The Tuesday rule is a bit too hash for some places 'out west.

Darryl
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Old May 6th 10, 08:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bob
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Default When did the OLC rules change on submission?

I believe the Tuesday rule exists so that the "Bundesliga" contest can
be scored. This is a competition amongst the German soaring clubs that
is hard fought and very competiteve! I think the fastest 3 hours of a
flight on Saturday and Sunday are scored for a club from their
airfield. Lots of beer rests on the weekly outcome!

You can have your flight scored by contacting the OLC (at) ssa (dot)
org [from Dan, see above]


Bob

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Old May 6th 10, 08:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dean[_2_]
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Default When did the OLC rules change on submission?



Flights have to be submitted by the Tuesday following the flight. *I
believe that means that a Monday flight must be submitted the next day,
while a Tuesday flight can be submitted the following Tuesday.


Hi Greg,
You are correct! I had always thought it was the more restrictive
rule until today. I flew on Tuesday, May 4, and hadn't even bother
posting because it was a local flight. Well, I just posted(on
Thursday), and it showed up on OLC. I guess that leaves time for those
week long retrieves!
Hope all is well with you!

Happy soaring, Dean

 




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