Hilton Cup Handicap questions

Ok, I have laid out the 1000K FAI traingle, working on the water to
load on board (thanks everyone for the comments) to try to get around
then I look up the handicaps to see how the Ventus B stacks up when I
find this:

Ventus B .885
Ventus 2A .895
Ventus 2B .900
LS6 A/B/C .900
ASW27B .907


What am I missing here? Anyone want to trade a V2 or ASW27B for my
Ventus B? The handicap says my 23 year old Ventus is better than your
new ones.

Tim

ttaylor at cc.usu.edu wrote:
Ok, I have laid out the 1000K FAI traingle, working on the water to
load on board (thanks everyone for the comments) to try to get around
then I look up the handicaps to see how the Ventus B stacks up when I
find this:

Ventus B .885
Ventus 2A .895
Ventus 2B .900
LS6 A/B/C .900
ASW27B .907


What am I missing here? Anyone want to trade a V2 or ASW27B for my
Ventus B? The handicap says my 23 year old Ventus is better than your
new ones.

Tim



With Dick Johnson's wing root fairings, it's better still!

Bob

The 2005 SSA handicaps say:
Ventus B .899
Ventus 2A .883
Ventus 2B .884
ASW 27 .880

Anyhow it amounts to a couple of bug's worth difference between them.

Oh sorry forgot to include my numbers came from:

http://barronhiltoncup.com/

The SSA numbers would make much more sense.

The hilton cup numbers look like they are based on how easy the glider
is to fly - at least for the Ventus B vs LS6 (from personal
experience)!

Kirk
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T o d d P a t t i s t wrote:
"ttaylor at cc.usu.edu" wrote:


I look up the handicaps to see how the Ventus B stacks up when I
find this:

Ventus B .885
Ventus 2A .895
Ventus 2B .900
LS6 A/B/C .900
ASW27B .907


What am I missing here?


I'm not sure where you got your handicaps, but I found a
similar oddity. My Ventus C with a B fuselage (large) has a
worse handicap (CH2003) than with the A fuselage (small).
The best answer I could come up with was that the B fuselage
weighs more than the A, giving it a higher wing loading.
Presumably the handicap was supposed to be adjusted for
actual weight relative to the listed weight. Your handicaps
still look odd.

The list Tim used is bizar An ASW 20 has a handicap of .900; an ASW
27 is .907! And try to get the DG 400 pilots around here to believe
this: DG 400(17) = .869; ASH 26 E = .875! If these handicaps were used
in the OLC, I'd be doing a lot better.

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