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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
... | If you didn't fight in WW II do you feel as though your had missed something? | Do you feel that given your druthers you'd rather have been there than not? Any | regrets at having missed it? Anyone? | | | Arthur Kramer | 344th BG 494th BS | England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany | Visit my WW II B-26 website at: | http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer | I guess if I had to use up one of my 3 wishes on WWII Art, it would be for Adolf Hitler to slip over in the bath and break his neck, some time in the early '20s. It would make a good movie and I'd enjoy sitting in the front row with all my absent relatives and enjoying the special effects. Glad you were there, gladder you came home. Cheers Dave Kearton |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... If you didn't fight in WW II do you feel as though your had missed something? I was born in 1963. Kind of assinine to feel that I "missed" something that was over before I was borne. |
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I was born in 1963. Kind of assinine to feel that I "missed" something that was over before I was borne. Then how do you explain the fascination with WWII aircraft and flight sims? all the best -- Dan Ford email: (requires authentication) see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com |
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ArtKramr wrote: If you didn't fight in WW II do you feel as though your had missed something? Do you feel that given your druthers you'd rather have been there than not? Any regrets at having missed it? Anyone? Having heard the descriptions of that war from my father (coast defence during summer 1940, including Cromwell, Atlantic escorts 1940-1943, channel 1943-44, south atlantic escorts 1944-45) and some of his contemporaries (whose service included variously intruder missions over France in Beaufighters, tanks in France in 1940, the desert and Italy, motor gunboats in the channel and the Adriatic, minesweepers in the channel and flying fulmars over the western desert, then Corsairs in the far east) I'm *profoundly* glad I missed it. I can see the scars it left on people. I'm very glad that my generation didn't have to go through that (and I think my parents generation are mainly glad that they saved their children and grandchildren from having to do it). That said, my parents' generation were faced with either doing something about a truely horrible threat (though without knowing - then - quite how horrible it was) or having to live under it. If I'd been faced with the same situation I can only hope I might have done as well. I'm not sure I would, but then maybe neither were they. I'm very glad to have been spared that. The tragedy - in this country at least (.uk) - is the way part of that generation's legacy - the country they built *after* they came home - has been squandered by my generation. -- Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/ "Time has stopped, says the Black Lion clock and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas) |
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 03:56:47 -0500, Cub Driver
wrote: I was born in 1963. Kind of assinine to feel that I "missed" something that was over before I was borne. Then how do you explain the fascination with WWII aircraft and flight sims? I own a lot of books on medieval history. Doesn't mean I have any desire to participate in the Black Death on a personal level, nor that I feel I missed out on anything by not dying of pneumonic plague. Gavin Bailey |
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Nope.But in the last 60 years I constantly hear from guys who tell me how lucky I was to be there and how they wished they had been there with us. I was just wondering how those in this NG feel about that. Modern desires to be a part of the WWII effort might be aided in knowing what the outcome was! Would many Germans or Japanese want to be a part of this fight knowing how it ended or the fuller context of the war? However, of all the wars fought during American history, I'd say the Revolution, Civil War (Union) and WWII seem most worthy of participation. If you're going to have to be involved in a war, those are the ones I'd "choose" to be a part of. (I think the current Iraqi effort has some attractiveness too, at least in what it would like to accomplish). One thing that makes WWII "attractive" to those looking back (certainly myself), is the way the nation seemed so united. No one claiming FDR lacked military experience and was incompetent to lead; FDR was just a rich guy letting someone else provide the blood; that American policies were the cause of the Japanese attack (they were); the whole affair was just to get the US out of depression and profits for corporations, ad infinitum. Perhaps there was that, but it seemed drowned out by people resolved to destroy the enemy no matter the cost. A broad popular belief that it was a just cause. Truly a nation working in lock step to accomplish a goal. SMH |
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Subject: If yiu didn't fight in WW II.....
From: "Dave Kearton" Date: 2/26/04 11:25 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... | If you didn't fight in WW II do you feel as though your had missed something? | Do you feel that given your druthers you'd rather have been there than not? Any | regrets at having missed it? Anyone? | | | Arthur Kramer | 344th BG 494th BS | England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany | Visit my WW II B-26 website at: | http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer | I guess if I had to use up one of my 3 wishes on WWII Art, it would be for Adolf Hitler to slip over in the bath and break his neck, some time in the early '20s. It would make a good movie and I'd enjoy sitting in the front row with all my absent relatives and enjoying the special effects. Glad you were there, gladder you came home. Thank you. May we never forget absent friends. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Subject: If yiu didn't fight in WW II.....
From: (B2431) Date: 2/26/04 10:29 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: From: "Tarver Engineering" I was in the National Guard doing NORAD duty at ground zero, so I don't believe I missed anything. Congratulations, you were on or near a major city, military base or site, industrial complex, government center etc. By george, so were the vast majority of the U.S. population. Wow, look at all them ground zeros. I guess that mean you were front line duty? Was it rough duty? You were just one of thousands of wrench benders. So was I. Want to compare combat duty? I can tell you about my time in AF spec ops or my participation in the South East Asia War Games and you can tell me..um... well.. I guess you can tell me about the fights you had with the B girls. Tell me, did you win any? Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired As Colin Powell said: "I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed managed to wangle slots in the Army Reserve and National Guard units... Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance to their country." Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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