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Did it again. Please replace "dealt" with "deal".
I quit. old hoodoo wrote: In Victoria Texas. However the F-101 just got moved this summer to Missouri after being here ten years. Bummer. I will never again dealt with City politicians. They have been on a crusade to get rid of all historical artifacts in the City. Lost a great Locomotive engine a couple of years ago. I'm moving eventually, historically speaking, this town sucks. Al John A. Weeks III wrote: In article , old hoodoo wrote: Here in Victoria we had an F-101 that when we got it, we prepared pads and metal supports to secure it and get the tires off the ground. Not a particularly difficult or expensive task. Victoria where? And where in that Victoria is it located? -john- |
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old hoodoo wrote:
Some bad news. I looked at pics of the outside display aircraft and they appear to most probably were just have been tied down. There was an old hurricane trick that used to be used for smaller operational aircraft to be tied down by putting the aircraft on its belly with gear up and then tying it down. Hindsight is 20-20, but I wonder it it wouldn't help to attach stuff to the wings to make them non-aerodynamic for a strong storm? A series of strips that would cause them to stall. |
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"old hoodoo" wrote in message
Here in Victoria we had an F-101 that when we got it, we prepared pads and metal supports to secure it and get the tires off the ground. Not a particularly difficult or expensive task. Sir Frances Chichester flew his Gypsy Moth through an typhoon in the orient when he turned up at the wrong hangar to berth it. He reasoned that it was designed to fly at the same airspeeds it was threatened with. What sort of planes do the US consider worth keeping that couldn't do that? -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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Hope the SNB-5P made it. It was one of the planes we used for our photo
training hops in the 50s - with Navy and Marine APs as pilots. Frank - 34 yrs USN "Thomas A. Hoffer" wrote in message ... I copied this article segment from a local Pensacola newspaper. Looks the exhibits suffered no damage with minor damage to the building itself. While it mentions some damage to static aircraft displays outside, it sounds like nothing was totally destroyed. I'm curious if the "significant" damage to some planes is fixable. " The National Museum of Naval Aviation was almost unscathed by the storm. Nichols said there were a few leaks in the roof, but the exhibits inside were unharmed. Some of the historic aircraft parked on the tarmac behind the museum were damaged, however. The canopy of an A-6 was sheared off. A couple of wings lay on the pavement and some planes, evidently blown off their moorings, had collided with other aircraft, causing significant damage." |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:16:49 -0500, old hoodoo
wrote: .....The Naval Aviation Museum, where the Navy houses its most valuable aviation artifacts, held up, officials said...." Al and I are among those who are waiting with anxiety to hear from the museum, not only for its existing collection, but because of its recent acquisition of the only Brewster F2A-1 fighter (indeed, the only "Buffalo") in existence. This is BW-372, a Finnish Air Force fighter recovered from a lake in Russia six years ago. See the Annals of the Brewster Buffalo at www.warbirdforum.com/buff.htm all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com Expedition sailboat charters www.expeditionsail.com |
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old hoodoo wrote:
Being a relatively new building, and I think built with private funds to the newer building codes, the National Museum of Naval Aviation has initially been reported to have weathered the storm intact which is what was expected (with crossed fingers I presume) from such a structure. Only a one liner, included in an article re the blue angels. "Storm damage forces Navy’s Blue Angels to skip Oceana show By JACK DORSEY, The Virginian-Pilot © September 18, 2004 .....The Naval Aviation Museum, where the Navy houses its most valuable aviation artifacts, held up, officials said...." So, apparently that magnificent collection was spared, and the decision to build a museum there was not an "historical disaster" as they may have built it right. Its my understanding that the museum itself is privately owned and funded, although it works in close association with the Navy. Still would like some confirmation though. AL Check out alt.binaries.pictures.aviation for some "official" USN photos of NAS Pensacola damage. No pics or info on the museum, which posters there are also quite concerned about. -- Lynn in StLou REMOVETHIS anti-spam measure to reply |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:36:39 GMT, lat7575
wrote: Check out alt.binaries.pictures.aviation for some "official" USN photos of NAS Pensacola damage. No It's even easier to get them on the web: http://www.news.navy.mil/view_galler...category_id=39 -- Andrew Toppan --- --- "I speak only for myself" "Haze Gray & Underway" - Naval History, DANFS, World Navies Today, Photo Features, Military FAQs, and more - http://www.hazegray.org/ |
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A majority of base roads are impassable.
Generator power to selected buildings only Reported damage to every building on station - 90% of buildings have suffered "significant" damage. Currently no power - no water - no sewage. Sporadic gas leaks exist all over the base. Phone landlines restored on limited capability this morning Internet connectivity/Navy.mil website still down. ETR sometime Sunday or Monday. Base Public Affairs Office destroyed (National Historic Building) - photo lab destroyed. Naval Air Technical Training Center was completely under water Pensacola Naval Air Station Museum structure held up. S-3 President Bush flew aboard USS Abraham Lincoln is intact and undamaged. Coast Guard station reported destroyed Air Station Cemetery intact Approximately 10% of power lines are down - conservative estimate. Runways are capable - Air Control tower structure ok - Radar is down Blue Angels All Blue Angels operations are on hold Scheduled show this weekend in Nantucket is canceled. Every member of Blue Angels reporting damage to their homes - currently working on return plan to Pensacola. May base out of New Orleans for the rest of season. All shows for the next week are on hold NAS Whiting Field Every hangar at Whiting is missing its roof. Aircraft damage in hangars is suspected. Full BDA still ongoing. No one other than emergency personnel are allowed on base Two-thirds of all primary air training is held at NAS Whiting Primary and helicopter training held at NAS Whiting completely down for approximately two weeks. |
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"Jake Donovan" wrote in message news:p6P3d.52316$9Y5.33484@fed1read02...
A majority of base roads are impassable. Generator power to selected buildings only Reported damage to every building on station - 90% of buildings have suffered "significant" damage. Currently no power - no water - no sewage. Sporadic gas leaks exist all over the base. Phone landlines restored on limited capability this morning Internet connectivity/Navy.mil website still down. ETR sometime Sunday or Monday. Base Public Affairs Office destroyed (National Historic Building) - photo lab destroyed. Naval Air Technical Training Center was completely under water Pensacola Naval Air Station Museum structure held up. S-3 President Bush flew aboard USS Abraham Lincoln is intact and undamaged. Coast Guard station reported destroyed Air Station Cemetery intact Approximately 10% of power lines are down - conservative estimate. Runways are capable - Air Control tower structure ok - Radar is down Blue Angels All Blue Angels operations are on hold Scheduled show this weekend in Nantucket is canceled. Every member of Blue Angels reporting damage to their homes - currently working on return plan to Pensacola. May base out of New Orleans for the rest of season. All shows for the next week are on hold NAS Whiting Field Every hangar at Whiting is missing its roof. Aircraft damage in hangars is suspected. Full BDA still ongoing. No one other than emergency personnel are allowed on base Two-thirds of all primary air training is held at NAS Whiting Primary and helicopter training held at NAS Whiting completely down for approximately two weeks. Great News! I just read an online article from the Miama Herald that says the museum fared very well. "There was minimum damage," said retired Vice Adm. Jack Fetterman, president and CEO of the Naval Aviation Museum Foundation. "The museum is in great shape." The article continues: "He said only two of about 70 planes displayed outside on the flight line at Pensacola Naval Air Station were damaged. Aircraft inside the museum and a restoration building were unharmed. Other than some water penetration near the entrance, the museum itself is fine, Fetterman said." Also: "We could be up for visitors within a week and a half to two weeks," Fetterman said. This is certainly a relief. I am still trying to reach NAS JRB NO to confirm if the Blue Angels are temporarily moving their base there. Best--Karen |
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Super NEWs INDEED! Thanks Karen, for posting it.
Karen Johnson wrote: "Jake Donovan" wrote in message news:p6P3d.52316$9Y5.33484@fed1read02... A majority of base roads are impassable. Generator power to selected buildings only Reported damage to every building on station - 90% of buildings have suffered "significant" damage. Currently no power - no water - no sewage. Sporadic gas leaks exist all over the base. Phone landlines restored on limited capability this morning Internet connectivity/Navy.mil website still down. ETR sometime Sunday or Monday. Base Public Affairs Office destroyed (National Historic Building) - photo lab destroyed. Naval Air Technical Training Center was completely under water Pensacola Naval Air Station Museum structure held up. S-3 President Bush flew aboard USS Abraham Lincoln is intact and undamaged. Coast Guard station reported destroyed Air Station Cemetery intact Approximately 10% of power lines are down - conservative estimate. Runways are capable - Air Control tower structure ok - Radar is down Blue Angels All Blue Angels operations are on hold Scheduled show this weekend in Nantucket is canceled. Every member of Blue Angels reporting damage to their homes - currently working on return plan to Pensacola. May base out of New Orleans for the rest of season. All shows for the next week are on hold NAS Whiting Field Every hangar at Whiting is missing its roof. Aircraft damage in hangars is suspected. Full BDA still ongoing. No one other than emergency personnel are allowed on base Two-thirds of all primary air training is held at NAS Whiting Primary and helicopter training held at NAS Whiting completely down for approximately two weeks. Great News! I just read an online article from the Miama Herald that says the museum fared very well. "There was minimum damage," said retired Vice Adm. Jack Fetterman, president and CEO of the Naval Aviation Museum Foundation. "The museum is in great shape." The article continues: "He said only two of about 70 planes displayed outside on the flight line at Pensacola Naval Air Station were damaged. Aircraft inside the museum and a restoration building were unharmed. Other than some water penetration near the entrance, the museum itself is fine, Fetterman said." Also: "We could be up for visitors within a week and a half to two weeks," Fetterman said. This is certainly a relief. I am still trying to reach NAS JRB NO to confirm if the Blue Angels are temporarily moving their base there. Best--Karen |
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