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Joint German-Israeli airforce excersie (Israeli airforce beats German pilots)
This is the first Joint airforce excersie between Isael and Germany
and it shows how close to each other the two countries are. Israeli pilots beat the Germans by more than 100 hits in dogfights excersie (I don't know what exactly the excersie was simulating). According ot Janes: http://www.janes.com/defence/air_for...0529_1_n.shtml Few years ago, US Marine Corps F/A-18 Hornets from the Balkans theater recently engaged in mock combat with Israeli Air Force fighters. The Hornets were armed with AIM-9s, and the Israeli fighters carried Python 3 and Python 4 missiles and Elbit DASH helmet sights. IDR's source describes the results as "more than ugly", the Israelis prevailing in 220 out of 240 engagements. -- http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1064202589502 Sep. 22, 2003 Israeli airforce beats German pilots in 'dogfight' exercise By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Israeli air force pilots handily beat their German counterparts in "dogfights" in the first ever air force exercise between the two countries, an Israeli military official said Monday. The Israeli F-15 pilots, aided by special technology that Israel does not share or sell to other countries, beat the Germans by more than 100 "hits," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. In the past, Israel has beaten American air force pilots by similar margins, the officials added. Israel purchases U.S. warplanes without battle technology, installing its own locally made systems into the aircraft. The exercise was conducted over the past two weeks in the skies of Sardinia in Italy. Germany is considered one of Israel's closest defense allies. Recently, Germany sold _ for a symbolic fee _ three advanced "Dolphin" submarines to Israel. Israel's air force has held exercises with the United States and Turkey recently. |
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"Quant" wrote in message om... This is the first Joint airforce excersie between Isael and Germany and it shows how close to each other the two countries are. Israeli pilots beat the Germans by more than 100 hits in dogfights excersie (I don't know what exactly the excersie was simulating). According ot Janes: http://www.janes.com/defence/air_for...0529_1_n.shtml Few years ago, US Marine Corps F/A-18 Hornets from the Balkans theater recently engaged in mock combat with Israeli Air Force fighters. The Hornets were armed with AIM-9s, and the Israeli fighters carried Python 3 and Python 4 missiles and Elbit DASH helmet sights. IDR's source describes the results as "more than ugly", the Israelis prevailing in 220 out of 240 engagements. -- http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1064202589502 Sep. 22, 2003 Israeli airforce beats German pilots in 'dogfight' exercise By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Israeli air force pilots handily beat their German counterparts in "dogfights" in the first ever air force exercise between the two countries, an Israeli military official said Monday. The Israeli F-15 pilots, aided by special technology that Israel does not share or sell to other countries, beat the Germans by more than 100 "hits," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. In the past, Israel has beaten American air force pilots by similar margins, the officials added. Israel purchases U.S. warplanes without battle technology, installing its own locally made systems into the aircraft. The exercise was conducted over the past two weeks in the skies of Sardinia in Italy. Germany is considered one of Israel's closest defense allies. Recently, Germany sold _ for a symbolic fee _ three advanced "Dolphin" submarines to Israel. Israel's air force has held exercises with the United States and Turkey recently. Excellent news. |
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Adam Helberg wrote:
"Quant" wrote in message om... This is the first Joint airforce excersie between Isael and Germany and it shows how close to each other the two countries are. Israeli pilots beat the Germans by more than 100 hits in dogfights excersie (I don't know what exactly the excersie was simulating). According ot Janes: http://www.janes.com/defence/air_for...0529_1_n.shtml Few years ago, US Marine Corps F/A-18 Hornets from the Balkans theater recently engaged in mock combat with Israeli Air Force fighters. The Hornets were armed with AIM-9s, and the Israeli fighters carried Python 3 and Python 4 missiles and Elbit DASH helmet sights. IDR's source describes the results as "more than ugly", the Israelis prevailing in 220 out of 240 engagements. -- http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1064202589502 Sep. 22, 2003 Israeli airforce beats German pilots in 'dogfight' exercise By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Israeli air force pilots handily beat their German counterparts in "dogfights" in the first ever air force exercise between the two countries, an Israeli military official said Monday. The Israeli F-15 pilots, aided by special technology that Israel does not share or sell to other countries, beat the Germans by more than 100 "hits," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. In the past, Israel has beaten American air force pilots by similar margins, the officials added. Israel purchases U.S. warplanes without battle technology, installing its own locally made systems into the aircraft. The exercise was conducted over the past two weeks in the skies of Sardinia in Italy. Germany is considered one of Israel's closest defense allies. Recently, Germany sold _ for a symbolic fee _ three advanced "Dolphin" submarines to Israel. Israel's air force has held exercises with the United States and Turkey recently. Excellent news. to whom? no money, no training = german air force. |
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Bernhard wrote in message ...
Adam Helberg wrote: "Quant" wrote in message om... Excellent news. to whom? no money, no training = german air force. Given the very high productivity of the German industry and workforce it would be interesting to see where the idiots that are now running the Germany are blowing the nations money on. |
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In a duel F-15 against F-4 II it isn't that big surprise, but it is well
known that the IAF is superior to every AF when it comes to dogfights in jets. Best, MCN "Quant" schrieb im Newsbeitrag om... This is the first Joint airforce excersie between Isael and Germany and it shows how close to each other the two countries are. Israeli pilots beat the Germans by more than 100 hits in dogfights excersie (I don't know what exactly the excersie was simulating). According ot Janes: http://www.janes.com/defence/air_for...0529_1_n.shtml Few years ago, US Marine Corps F/A-18 Hornets from the Balkans theater recently engaged in mock combat with Israeli Air Force fighters. The Hornets were armed with AIM-9s, and the Israeli fighters carried Python 3 and Python 4 missiles and Elbit DASH helmet sights. IDR's source describes the results as "more than ugly", the Israelis prevailing in 220 out of 240 engagements. -- http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1064202589502 Sep. 22, 2003 Israeli airforce beats German pilots in 'dogfight' exercise By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Israeli air force pilots handily beat their German counterparts in "dogfights" in the first ever air force exercise between the two countries, an Israeli military official said Monday. The Israeli F-15 pilots, aided by special technology that Israel does not share or sell to other countries, beat the Germans by more than 100 "hits," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. In the past, Israel has beaten American air force pilots by similar margins, the officials added. Israel purchases U.S. warplanes without battle technology, installing its own locally made systems into the aircraft. The exercise was conducted over the past two weeks in the skies of Sardinia in Italy. Germany is considered one of Israel's closest defense allies. Recently, Germany sold _ for a symbolic fee _ three advanced "Dolphin" submarines to Israel. Israel's air force has held exercises with the United States and Turkey recently. |
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phil hunt wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:57:51 -0700, Hobo wrote: In article , (Quant) wrote: Recently, Germany sold _ for a symbolic fee _ three advanced "Dolphin" submarines to Israel. The Germans gave Israel 3 subs for free and then refused to sell the same design to Taiwan at market price. How bizarre. Due to pressure from China no doubt. Tilly -- |
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"MCN" wrote in message ...
In a duel F-15 against F-4 II it isn't that big surprise, but it is well known that the IAF is superior to every AF when it comes to dogfights in jets. Best, MCN Not necessarily. If the Germans had used the now retired MiG-29s using the IRST the Israelis might have lost. And, what of the new Eurofighter coming into use? Rob "Quant" schrieb im Newsbeitrag om... This is the first Joint airforce excersie between Isael and Germany and it shows how close to each other the two countries are. Israeli pilots beat the Germans by more than 100 hits in dogfights excersie (I don't know what exactly the excersie was simulating). According ot Janes: http://www.janes.com/defence/air_for...0529_1_n.shtml Few years ago, US Marine Corps F/A-18 Hornets from the Balkans theater recently engaged in mock combat with Israeli Air Force fighters. The Hornets were armed with AIM-9s, and the Israeli fighters carried Python 3 and Python 4 missiles and Elbit DASH helmet sights. IDR's source describes the results as "more than ugly", the Israelis prevailing in 220 out of 240 engagements. -- http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1064202589502 Sep. 22, 2003 Israeli airforce beats German pilots in 'dogfight' exercise By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Israeli air force pilots handily beat their German counterparts in "dogfights" in the first ever air force exercise between the two countries, an Israeli military official said Monday. The Israeli F-15 pilots, aided by special technology that Israel does not share or sell to other countries, beat the Germans by more than 100 "hits," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. In the past, Israel has beaten American air force pilots by similar margins, the officials added. Israel purchases U.S. warplanes without battle technology, installing its own locally made systems into the aircraft. The exercise was conducted over the past two weeks in the skies of Sardinia in Italy. Germany is considered one of Israel's closest defense allies. Recently, Germany sold _ for a symbolic fee _ three advanced "Dolphin" submarines to Israel. Israel's air force has held exercises with the United States and Turkey recently. |
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The MiG-29 will be given to Poland (I will miss them) and the EF 2000 might
need some additional time until it becomes a real fighter, but then it might become more interessting. Best, MCN "robert arndt" schrieb im Newsbeitrag om... "MCN" wrote in message ... In a duel F-15 against F-4 II it isn't that big surprise, but it is well known that the IAF is superior to every AF when it comes to dogfights in jets. Best, MCN Not necessarily. If the Germans had used the now retired MiG-29s using the IRST the Israelis might have lost. And, what of the new Eurofighter coming into use? Rob "Quant" schrieb im Newsbeitrag om... This is the first Joint airforce excersie between Isael and Germany and it shows how close to each other the two countries are. Israeli pilots beat the Germans by more than 100 hits in dogfights excersie (I don't know what exactly the excersie was simulating). According ot Janes: http://www.janes.com/defence/air_for...0529_1_n.shtml Few years ago, US Marine Corps F/A-18 Hornets from the Balkans theater recently engaged in mock combat with Israeli Air Force fighters. The Hornets were armed with AIM-9s, and the Israeli fighters carried Python 3 and Python 4 missiles and Elbit DASH helmet sights. IDR's source describes the results as "more than ugly", the Israelis prevailing in 220 out of 240 engagements. -- http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1064202589502 Sep. 22, 2003 Israeli airforce beats German pilots in 'dogfight' exercise By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Israeli air force pilots handily beat their German counterparts in "dogfights" in the first ever air force exercise between the two countries, an Israeli military official said Monday. The Israeli F-15 pilots, aided by special technology that Israel does not share or sell to other countries, beat the Germans by more than 100 "hits," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. In the past, Israel has beaten American air force pilots by similar margins, the officials added. Israel purchases U.S. warplanes without battle technology, installing its own locally made systems into the aircraft. The exercise was conducted over the past two weeks in the skies of Sardinia in Italy. Germany is considered one of Israel's closest defense allies. Recently, Germany sold _ for a symbolic fee _ three advanced "Dolphin" submarines to Israel. Israel's air force has held exercises with the United States and Turkey recently. |
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