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Eurofighter encounters a glitch http://groups.google.com/groups?q=au...x.co m&rnum=1 Uhmmm...all you did there was note that one crashed (kind of hard to dance away from that one), and supposedly why that happened. OTOH, after a few much more knowledgable folks took you to task over that whole "Typhoons whip F-15's in spur-of-the-moment-DACM" bit, you continued to stick by that account. Latest news is it happened in under 9 seconds, and the radar recording of the event will be shown at one of the Typhoon displays at future Airshows, Perhaps you could pop along and gaffaw in the background. Now answer my question - Do you have _anything_ useful to add to this thread regarding the JSF? An ambitious aircraft development program of great promise, with a rather radical (i.e., widespread participation)development plan, experiencing the kind of developmental hiccups one should expect at this early stage of the program. And the sky has not fallen, despite reports to the contrary. Thats useful!!! Bloody hell, Thanks a bunch Kevin!, you have finally lowered my expectations of you to a level at which even you can perform. How about trying to stay on topic, If you want to argue, fine, go find another nutcase and stop bleating about what a fine job everyones doing in Iraq. My dad used to say "you have to admire people who's opinions aint swayed by reality" Cheers John Cook Any spelling mistakes/grammatic errors are there purely to annoy. All opinions are mine, not TAFE's however much they beg me for them. Email Address :- Spam trap - please remove (trousers) to email me Eurofighter Website :- http://www.eurofighter-typhoon.co.uk |
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:39:20 -0400, "Kevin Brooks"
wrote: "John Cook" wrote in message ... Saying that more Iraqi's are being serviced by the electrical grid isn't the best example you could give at the moment - Many have seen the pictures of that Iraqi prisoner hooked up to it ;-). Not really a laughing matter--and of course, the individuals responsible were brought up on charges before the press even went public with that story. A number of personnel facing courts martial, and a fair number of more senior leaders receiving non-judicial punishment for lesser related offenses, because a troopie did what he was supposed to do (report improper/illegal behavior). So the end game looks like a few individuals screwed up, are facing the consequences, and the US Army met its obligation to investigate and take punitive action where appropriate--not a bad thing, IMO. Do you still feel that this has been handled promptly and properly? Mary -- Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer |
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"Mary Shafer" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:39:20 -0400, "Kevin Brooks" wrote: "John Cook" wrote in message ... Saying that more Iraqi's are being serviced by the electrical grid isn't the best example you could give at the moment - Many have seen the pictures of that Iraqi prisoner hooked up to it ;-). Not really a laughing matter--and of course, the individuals responsible were brought up on charges before the press even went public with that story. A number of personnel facing courts martial, and a fair number of more senior leaders receiving non-judicial punishment for lesser related offenses, because a troopie did what he was supposed to do (report improper/illegal behavior). So the end game looks like a few individuals screwed up, are facing the consequences, and the US Army met its obligation to investigate and take punitive action where appropriate--not a bad thing, IMO. Do you still feel that this has been handled promptly and properly? Look at the timeline--the report of the activities in question was received by the chain of command on 16 Jan, IIRC, and the CID kicked off its investigation within three days. Less than four months later the first indicif-dual is getting ready to face a courts martial. How many *civil* criminal proceedings do you see take off this quickly? Sounds pretty prompt to me. Properly? Sounds like it. CID was involved from the get-go, and the commander began a 15-6 investigation concurrently. About the same time, the Army announced that an investigation was underway to the press (not vice versa). Key leaders in the suspect units were removed from command immediately. Despite the inept braying of the media (on topics related, large and small--I just lstened to CNN's Judy Woodruff tell her viewers that today's editorial in Army Times...will undoubtedly be read by all US Marines, who read each and every copy...(?!)), the system is working, promptly and apparently efficiently. You could toss up the rather general concerns raised by the ICRC last year...but being as they were concerned with infractions that allegedly occured the same month we began moving into Iraq, and included such weighty concerns as keeping prisoners in unlighted cells (when 90 plus percent of the entire Iraqi population was sililarly without power), I am not sure how much creedance to give that approach. Brooks Mary -- Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer |
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More snippets of news....
It looks Like Italy is having the same problem with workshare, and are very unhappy about it. They too are reconsidering their participation. cheers |
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