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Gordon's San Diego Air & Space Museum Pics : Gordon with Hindenberg fabric 2
-- Cheers Dave Kearton |
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Gordon's San Diego Air & Space Museum Pics : Gordon with Hindenberg fabric 2
Ahhh... very interesting... aluminium with iron oxide... thermite reaction,
anybody? It was the fabric that caused the disaster, not the hydrogen. "Dave Kearton" wrote in message ... -- Cheers Dave Kearton |
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Gordon's San Diego Air & Space Museum Pics : Gordon with Hindenberg fabric 2
"NoJags Neil" wrote in message ... Ahhh... very interesting... aluminium with iron oxide... thermite reaction, anybody? It was the fabric that caused the disaster, not the hydrogen. Perhaps the hydrogen caused it, but the thermite reaction made it historic. Luke |
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Gordon's San Diego Air & Space Museum Pics : Gordon with Hindenberg fabric 2
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"Luke" wrote: "NoJags Neil" wrote in message ... Ahhh... very interesting... aluminium with iron oxide... thermite reaction, anybody? It was the fabric that caused the disaster, not the hydrogen. Perhaps the hydrogen caused it, but the thermite reaction made it historic. Luke Nope -- it was the nitrate dope that everybody used on fabric in those days. The aluminum powder in the dope (for UV protection) would have played only a minor role. |
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Gordon's San Diego Air & Space Museum Pics : Gordon with Hindenberg fabric 2
"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message news In article , "Luke" wrote: "NoJags Neil" wrote in message ... Ahhh... very interesting... aluminium with iron oxide... thermite reaction, anybody? It was the fabric that caused the disaster, not the hydrogen. Perhaps the hydrogen caused it, but the thermite reaction made it historic. Luke Nope -- it was the nitrate dope that everybody used on fabric in those days. The aluminum powder in the dope (for UV protection) would have played only a minor role. The whole thing was a flying tinder box imho... But as to the cause of the disaster, I have a hard time seeing how nitrate dope alone can be ignited buy a static spark. I've not done my own "mythbusters" review of the events, but it seems that to me, (as an engineer and an A&P) that the hydrogen gas was what would be easiest part of the pile to ignite, followed, albiet very closely, by the dope covered fabric. Hydrogen gas burns with an invisible flame and we have all seen the motion pictures of that day... The glaring lack of other dope and fabric covered aircraft burting into flames should be anecdotal evidence to support the established scenario that the hydrogen gas was the real culprit. The dope, iron and aluminum just made it more spectacular. Luke |
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Gordon's San Diego Air & Space Museum Pics : Gordon with Hindenberg fabric 2
Luke wrote:
The whole thing was a flying tinder box imho... But as to the cause of the disaster, I have a hard time seeing how nitrate dope alone can be ignited buy a static spark. I've not done my own "mythbusters" review of the events, but it seems that to me, (as an engineer and an A&P) that the hydrogen gas was what would be easiest part of the pile to ignite, followed, albiet very closely, by the dope covered fabric. Hydrogen gas burns with an invisible flame and we have all seen the motion pictures of that day... The glaring lack of other dope and fabric covered aircraft burting into flames should be anecdotal evidence to support the established scenario that the hydrogen gas was the real culprit. The dope, iron and aluminum just made it more spectacular. Luke Far be it for me to refer anyone to Wikipedia, it seems to be regarded here as the Sesame Street reference library. However, the Hindenberg article is quite interesting and goes into enough depth on the popular Hindenberg crash theories, to be worth a 5 minute read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LZ_129_Hindenburg Interestingly, after several German and American investigations, no official cause has been definitively identified (discounting the Nazi's conclusions for political reasons). -- Cheers Dave Kearton (this post was brought to you by the letters L & Z and the numbers 1, 2 and 9) |
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Gordon's San Diego Air & Space Museum Pics : Gordon with Hindenberg fabric 2
"Luke" wrote in message ... "Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message news In article , "Luke" wrote: "NoJags Neil" wrote in message ... Ahhh... very interesting... aluminium with iron oxide... thermite reaction, anybody? It was the fabric that caused the disaster, not the hydrogen. Perhaps the hydrogen caused it, but the thermite reaction made it historic. Luke Nope -- it was the nitrate dope that everybody used on fabric in those days. The aluminum powder in the dope (for UV protection) would have played only a minor role. The whole thing was a flying tinder box imho... But as to the cause of the disaster, I have a hard time seeing how nitrate dope alone can be ignited buy a static spark. I've not done my own "mythbusters" review of the events, but it seems that to me, (as an engineer and an A&P) that the hydrogen gas was what would be easiest part of the pile to ignite, followed, albiet very closely, by the dope covered fabric. Hydrogen gas burns with an invisible flame and we have all seen the motion pictures of that day... The glaring lack of other dope and fabric covered aircraft burting into flames should be anecdotal evidence to support the established scenario that the hydrogen gas was the real culprit. The dope, iron and aluminum just made it more spectacular. Luke considering what it was made of and filled with its amazing it lasted as long as it did. |
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