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Larry Dighera wrote: At least Sheaffer will presumably have to pass written and practical examinations before he flies again. If he is able to find a DE willing to sign him off, he'll probably be sharp enough for us to comfortably share the skies with. From what I've seen/read, he seems of average intelligence, and lacked recent flight experience for several years. In fact, one of the dozen things the FAA actually charged him with was flying a pax w/o currency. The fact that no one has a $200 GPS surprised me. Either that or they had one and didn't know how to read it. -Robert |
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 01:25:27 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
wrote in . net:: He intentionally flew into the ADIZ. Where'd you get that information? |
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Mike and Larry,
You mentioned "intent" items of which I was not aware when I drafted my post: knowing about the ADIZ and that he carried a passenger without being in compliance with recency of experience. Assuming both of those were true, an ASRS report would not have helped the guy. Most of the time an airspace error results in a suspension - usually it's a pilot who knows about the airspace and slips up in navigating and clips the edge (I'm aware of a couple where the pilot knew about it but had figued the wrong center point of the airspace on a presidential TFR so the edge was clipped and none of the pilots knew that had they been on even a VFR flight plan with assigned transponder code that the radius of concern for them dropped from 30 to 10 miles) - or fails to check and get the information about a TFR. I had not seen a revocation on an airspace violation, but then the guy who flew over DC really screwed the pooch and IMHO the revocation was fully deserved. All the best, Rick |
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 01:25:27 GMT, "Mike Rapoport" wrote in . net:: He intentionally flew into the ADIZ. Where'd you get that information? By intentionally I meant that he was not lost, his sources of nav information had not failed, he was not dodging thunderstorms. He planned a flight that passed through the ADIZ. Mike MU-2 |
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On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:22:11 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
wrote in . net:: "Larry Dighera" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 01:25:27 GMT, "Mike Rapoport" wrote in . net:: He intentionally flew into the ADIZ. Where'd you get that information? By intentionally I meant that he was not lost, his sources of nav information had not failed, he was not dodging thunderstorms. He planned a flight that passed through the ADIZ. Perhaps I'm reading to much into what I've read, but I don't think Sheaffer was aware of the existence of the ADIZ at all before he departed. If so, it's difficult to accept that he intentionally entered it. |
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
... Perhaps I'm reading to much into what I've read, but I don't think Sheaffer was aware of the existence of the ADIZ at all before he departed. If so, it's difficult to accept that he intentionally entered it. Mike's statement is probably better phrased as "he intentionally flew into the area in which the ADIZ exists". Whether that makes a difference for the ASRS form, I don't know. I suspect it does...that is, the *violation* was not intentional, even if the act that led to it was. And it is an intentional violation that is excepted from the protection of submitting the form (which is, I think, the point you are making?). I'm too lazy to go look at the exact wording now, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's some language in the other exceptions that would have disallowed this particular violation, given how egregious it was. Pete |
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
ink.net... "Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 01:25:27 GMT, "Mike Rapoport" wrote in . net:: He intentionally flew into the ADIZ. Where'd you get that information? By intentionally I meant that he was not lost, his sources of nav information had not failed, he was not dodging thunderstorms. He planned a flight that passed through the ADIZ. Mike, where'd you read that he was not lost or that he was actually on his planned course? --Gary |
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