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Old May 6th 04, 01:13 PM
Toks Desalu
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I don't know why you think it is C-210 or 206. I am the one who saw the
segment. Believe me, I can identify the aircraft from my TV. I am pretty
sure that it is a Piper. It can't be C-210 or 206 because it is a low wing
plane.

Toks Desalu


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Old May 6th 04, 02:15 PM
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The Cessna "205" was the predecessor of the Cessna "210". The model number
of the "205" is 210-5. If you look at it it already has the bulb on the
lower cowling for the nose gear to retract into. They removed the rear two
seats for the main gear to retract into. That is why early C-210 was a four
seat airplane.

Allen

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The crash the original poster described was a Cessna 205 (the small
tail, underpowered 206).


Yup...dunno why I was thinking it was a C-210.
Here is the accident report.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...08X07972&key=1


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Old May 6th 04, 03:17 PM
Legrande Harris
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I have jumped out of a lot of perfectly good airplanes in every case
(with the smaller planes) there were no seats, no seatbelts and no
door. The jumpers just crouch in the back, holding on to whatever is
handy until the pilot gives the go signal.
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Old May 7th 04, 03:48 AM
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Ditch wrote:

Here is the accident report.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...08X07972&key=1


Holy crap. "Preparing to jump from about 3500 feet?" Although I'm not
an avid sky diver, I didn't think anyone jumped from an airplane at much
less than 9000' AGL.

I did the heave-ho out of a Twin Otter at 13,000. This altitude sounds
more like BASE jumping.

Need some time to enjoy that 120 mph wind-in-the-face.
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Old May 7th 04, 04:31 AM
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"Preparing to jump from about 3500 feet?" Although I'm not
an avid sky diver, I didn't think anyone jumped from an airplane at much
less than 9000' AGL.


I've jumped. It's not uncommon to jump from less than 9000 feet. In fact 3500
feet doesn't sound unreasonable to me.

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Old May 7th 04, 10:26 AM
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I've jumped. It's not uncommon to jump from less than 9000 feet. In fact 3500
feet doesn't sound unreasonable to me.


If I recall correctly from my days at Fort Bragg, the 82nd Airborne
jumped from 900 feet.

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Old May 7th 04, 12:59 PM
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Teacherjh wrote:

I've jumped. It's not uncommon to jump from less than 9000 feet. In fact 3500
feet doesn't sound unreasonable to me.


I know a glider pilot who successfully jumped from 600 ft.

Stefan

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Old May 7th 04, 01:08 PM
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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I've jumped. It's not uncommon to jump from less than 9000 feet. In

fact 3500
feet doesn't sound unreasonable to me.


If I recall correctly from my days at Fort Bragg, the 82nd Airborne
jumped from 900 feet.


My guess is that military jumps want to be from the lowest possible
altitude. This will minimize the time the enemy has to sight and shoot at
them, conceals the landing target and provides more accurate landing. Sport
jumpers want to maximize the free-fall time and thus, want to jump from the
max altitude they can afford.



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Old May 7th 04, 01:32 PM
Scott Lowrey
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Cub Driver wrote:
I've jumped. It's not uncommon to jump from less than 9000 feet. In fact 3500
feet doesn't sound unreasonable to me.



If I recall correctly from my days at Fort Bragg, the 82nd Airborne
jumped from 900 feet.


Don't misunderstand me. Like I said, the BASE jumpers will jump off
anything as long as their hand-deployed chutes can open in time to break
the fall. And I'm sure the special ops guys in the military practice
all possibilities.

I was thinking more about recreational sky divers who enjoy being in the
air a long time. I jumped in Eloy, AZ, where there are a lot of serious
flyers, group jumps, VW drops (, etc so maybe that's where I got the
notion.

-Scott
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Old May 7th 04, 04:33 PM
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"William W. Plummer" wrote in message
news:4%Kmc.45161$Ik.3096389@attbi_s53...

My guess is that military jumps want to be from the lowest possible
altitude. This will minimize the time the enemy has to sight and shoot at
them, conceals the landing target and provides more accurate landing.

Sport
jumpers want to maximize the free-fall time and thus, want to jump from

the
max altitude they can afford.


If the plane is real low then you are even easier to spot. If you want
stealth you jump from 30K+ and don't open your chute until real low. They
call it a HALO jump, high altitude, low opening.


 




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