Good for two more years...

On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" wrote:
Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified aircraft I
could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and continue for a
tour. no checking at all.
for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued licence.

we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.

Stealth Pilot

Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.


Pity, "License" has a certain je ne sais qois.

Cheers

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
wrote:

On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" wrote:
Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified aircraft I
could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and continue for a
tour. no checking at all.
for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued licence.

we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.

Stealth Pilot

Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.


Pity, "License" has a certain je ne sais qois.

Cheers

this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue is quite
important in australia.

icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are called
"licences"
domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the country of
issue are called "certificates"

in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and ultralight
pilots have certificates.

our regulators seem to think that everything non commercial should
live within the RAA environment. they are wrong for this reason!

Stealth Pilot

On Jul 18, 9:57*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps



wrote:
On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" wrote:
Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified aircraft I
could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and continue for a
tour. no checking at all.
for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued licence.

we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.

Stealth Pilot

Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.

Pity, *"License" has a certain je ne sais qois.

Cheers

this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue is quite
important in australia.

icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are called
"licences"
domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the country of
issue are called "certificates"

in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and ultralight
pilots have certificates.


Sounds fair enough to me. Some of those ultralights belong only to the
certifiable.

Cheers

More_Flaps wrote in
:

On Jul 18, 9:57*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps



wrote:
On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" wrote:
Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK
require
s a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards
Distri
ct
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US
certific
ate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by
any lo
cal
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified
aircraft I could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and
continue for a tour. no checking at all.
for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued
licence.

we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.

Stealth Pilot

Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.

Pity, *"License" has a certain je ne sais qois.

Cheers

this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue is quite
important in australia.

icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are called
"licences"
domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the country of
issue are called "certificates"

in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and ultralight
pilots have certificates.


Sounds fair enough to me. Some of those ultralights belong only to the
certifiable.


Lawn furniture powered by weed whackers.



Bertie

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:49:55 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
wrote:

On Jul 18, 7:58*am, Daedalus wrote:

Do people you get in flame wars with call you "****_flaps?"

That would be irritating. I bet you think those people are stupid.


You try sooo hard and yet it never really makes you feel better does
it?

W0t? I asked you a question is all.

If you speak nicely to me I may be able to suggest something for you.

I was speaking nicely to you, frend. I'm not going to kiss your ass,
if that's what you're looking for. I don't even know you.

Jade


Cheers

In article , Bertie the
Bunyip says...

More_Flaps wrote in
:

On Jul 18, 9:57*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps



wrote:
On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" wrote:
Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK
require
s a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards
Distri
ct
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US
certific
ate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by
any lo
cal
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified
aircraft I could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and
continue for a tour. no checking at all.
for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued
licence.

we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.

Stealth Pilot

Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.

Pity, *"License" has a certain je ne sais qois.

Cheers

this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue is quite
important in australia.

icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are called
"licences"
domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the country of
issue are called "certificates"

in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and ultralight
pilots have certificates.


Sounds fair enough to me. Some of those ultralights belong only to the
certifiable.


Lawn furniture powered by weed whackers.

It beats the heck of out lawn furniture powered by kids balloons...

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"

Maxwell luv2^fly99@live.^com wrote in
:

In article , Bertie the
Bunyip says...

More_Flaps wrote in
news:f619c72b-0904-452a-a6ef-
:


On Jul 18, 9:57*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps



wrote:
On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" wrote:
Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK
require
s a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards
Distri
ct
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US
certific
ate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by
any lo
cal
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt
an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified
aircraft I could just fly it to america, pass customs etc,
and
continue for a tour. no checking at all.
for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued
licence.

we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.

Stealth Pilot

Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.

Pity, *"License" has a certain je ne sais qois.

Cheers

this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue is
quite
important in australia.

icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are called
"licences"
domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the country
of
issue are called "certificates"

in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and ultralight
pilots have certificates.


Sounds fair enough to me. Some of those ultralights belong only to
the
certifiable.


Lawn furniture powered by weed whackers.

It beats the heck of out lawn furniture powered by kids balloons...


True.. You can have 'em both, though!


Bertie

On Jul 19, 12:43*am, Daedalus wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:49:55 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps

wrote:
On Jul 18, 7:58*am, Daedalus wrote:

Do people you get in flame wars with call you "****_flaps?"

That would be irritating. I bet you think those people are stupid.

You try sooo hard and yet it never really makes you feel better does
it?

W0t? I asked you a question is all.

Nope.

If you speak nicely to me I may be able to suggest something for you.

I was speaking nicely to you, frend. I'm not going to kiss your ass,
if that's what you're looking for.


You already have. Thanks.

Stealth Pilot wrote:


hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?

FYI:

FAA form 8710 "Airman Certificate and/or Rating Application" part II:
'Certificate or Rating Applied For on Basis of' includes option D:
'Holder of Foreign License Issued By'

They ask for Country, Grade of License, Number and Ratings. You can get
the form at www.faa.gov.

The relevant regulations are 14 CFR 61.75 - Private Pilot Certification
on the Basis of a Foregin Pilot License.

Good luck!

Chris Gattman
Portland, Oregon

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:22:55 +0000 (UTC), gatt
wrote:

Stealth Pilot wrote:


hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?

FYI:

FAA form 8710 "Airman Certificate and/or Rating Application" part II:
'Certificate or Rating Applied For on Basis of' includes option D:
'Holder of Foreign License Issued By'

They ask for Country, Grade of License, Number and Ratings. You can get
the form at www.faa.gov.

The relevant regulations are 14 CFR 61.75 - Private Pilot Certification
on the Basis of a Foregin Pilot License.

Good luck!

Chris Gattman
Portland, Oregon

thanks.