Airparks; Living On The Beaten Path?

Rich S. wrote:


I would love to live on an airpark with a nice wide runway, especially if
it's rolled turf. So much safer and easier on the equipment. I envy you,
Margy. If I was 20 or 30 years younger, I'd jump at the opportunity.

Fly safe and tailwinds,
Rich S.

The pre-drought turf was great, now it's a bit lumpy, but I'm sure a few
good months of rain and some overseeding will put it right.

Margy

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On Mar 15, 9:44*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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The Tcart used to cruise at 100 in real life on a Continental
A-65.

I have flown several Coupes. *Have yet to see 110 mph in level
flight on any of them!

Sometimes specifications are accurate, and sometimes they
aren't!
:-)

Highflyer
Highflight Aviation Services
Pinckneyville Airport, PJY

At one time, I marvelled at how much more capable so many older
designs must have been--and then I learned that some of those old
factory specs were just as imaginative as some of the earliest
kits.

Actually, many of them were quite accurate. HF is right, the
T-cart would do close on 100 with an A-65 and so would a Luscombe.
The Monocoupe 90 was very quick and the 30s Cessnas delivered as
advertised as well. The aoirplanes that could be classified as
"pilots" airplanes tended to do waht they said in advertising
because if they didn;'t they would be found out pretty quickly.
The airplanes that were pitched more at newcomers probably
suffered more from exageration.

Bertie

Thanks for that. *Some of those old Cessna numbers really looked a
little too good--so I am expecially glad they were true.

I had previously confirmed that the T-carts were impressive
performers, but have never known anything about the Monocoupes.

Well, they won races time after time in the thirties. Nothing could
touch them. Johnny Livingston even flew one race inverted to spice
things up.With bigger engines and clipped wings they went even
faster. We're talking RV performance in the early thirties with
similar horsepower and farily hairy chested handling.. Since Don
*Luscombe was one of the designers you can see how the Luscombes were
race-bred.

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The Kitfox reminds me of the Coupe.

It's supposed to, the bump cowl and such. But it's nothing like it,
really. For one thing, the 'coupe wasn't built like lawn furniture.. And
a 'coupe with a two stroke? Shudder!


Bertie

Blueskies wrote:

"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
m...

Dan wrote:

And this video is remarkable because...?


It is a really pretty Ercoupe! I think living that close to a GA
landing strip is the way to go (we break ground this week!!)
www.longislandairpark.com Phase II lot 12.

Margy



Looks like fun! and the prices look fair also. How big is your hangar
going to be? I didn't see anything about hangars in the covenants...


According to NC building code a residential hangar is under 2,000', ours
is 1,995 or something. Of course the original larger design had
workspace IN the hangar which is now walled off, etc. So what was a
3,000' square hangar is now a 1,995' T hangar with workshop, mechanical
room, etc. walled off with fire rated sheet rock. If we went larger
than 2,000 we would have had to build it as a commercial hangar using
commercial standards. A number of the hangars in the community are much
larger and built to the commercial standards. Our covenants are much
more reasonable (IMHO) than most airparks. We can build the hangar with
apartment first and build the house later (which is what we are doing).
And the architectural review is don't build anything stupid (no
domes).It's a nice neighborhood.


MARGY

Margy

"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
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The pre-drought turf was great, now it's a bit lumpy, but I'm sure a few
good months of rain and some overseeding will put it right.

The owners of Wax Orchards airport (WA69) used to be proud to say their
runway was the smoothest turf strip anywhere. I see their description at
Airnav http://www.airnav.com/airport/WA69 says "Surface: turf, in fair
condition". They used to roll it until it felt like a billiard table. Wish
my lawn was in half that shape.

Rich S.

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:12:28 -0400, Margy Natalie wrote:

I won't speak for Orval but I wouldn't buy such a lot because if the
owners don't own the runway who ever does could sell it out from
under you and you end up with a house with a big garage.

There can still be problems. We had one in Wisconsin where a lawyer
bought one of the lots. Built a nice house without a hangar. Then
got the runway shutdown because of noise!

Holy crap! if there were ever a case for justifiable homicide.

Bertie
They should have written their HOA materials better. We had to sign
something at closing that stated we knew we were in and aviation
community, there were landing aircraft and we couldn't do anything about
it (not quite the wording, but the jist is the same).

Margy

You can and should write strong language into the HOA, covenants and
restrictions, attaching them to the deed in perpetuity. Still, someone
can always dump a lawsuit on the Owners wherein, hopefully, you can be
(self) insured as to the cost of the litigation and the potential loss
in litigation.
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:08:07 -0400, Margy Natalie wrote:

WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:29:02 -0400, Margy Natalie wrote:

What percentage of landings happen off the airstrip? That % of landings
could find you in someone's living room.

I think houses off the approach and departure ends are a much worse
idea. If you have such a bad wind/landing that you are going to hit my
house 110' off the center line either you are planting a really large
aircraft on 3,000' of grass or you need some serious recurrent training.

Margy

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The above was the e.g., note that many homes are 60' OCl

Great way to get Gulf view in a home that is several hundred feet off the
beach though.
I saw that, it just made me jealous (until I thought about hurricane
season).

lol But you have the advantage of flying out to wherever. I-X5 gets
backed up, you wouldn't believe the evacuation mess from S. FL.

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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:55:04 -0600, cavelamb himself wrote:

WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:02:32 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

Or you could say "miss a landing and kill the neighbor's kids" or any other
level of irreality.

There is nothing unreal about my statement. Improbable, that's open for
debate.


By the way, I have not seen large numbers of children playing alongside the
runway at ANY airpark I have flown into. That is about as realistic as the
children playing on the interstates in the big cities.

Highflyer

I just read several airpark descriptions, many were relating the fact that
kids were riding their bicycles not only along the strip but across the
strips. Including 3 wheelers, etc.

At Spruce Creek, we take such behavior VERY seriously! NOBODY but
aircraft and airport maintenance vehicles are allowed on the runway.
Anybody else is subject to fines and banishment from the property.

A solid set of covenants backed with enforceability (fines and liens) and
good planning, yep you are in good shape.

Ok, I get it.

In real life you are a lawyer, right?

Yes and No.
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:10:26 -0400, Margy Natalie wrote:

WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:57:02 -0500, Highflyer wrote:

"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
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Or you could say "I never miss a landing" or any other level of irreality.
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Or you could say "miss a landing and kill the neighbor's kids" or any other
level of irreality.

There is nothing unreal about my statement. Improbable, that's open for
debate.

By the way, I have not seen large numbers of children playing alongside the
runway at ANY airpark I have flown into. That is about as realistic as the
children playing on the interstates in the big cities.

Highflyer

I just read several airpark descriptions, many were relating the fact that
kids were riding their bicycles not only along the strip but across the
strips. Including 3 wheelers, etc.

All of the kids at our airpark (even the little ones) have GREAT respect
for the runway. All of the pilots also know that if any houses are
under construction (almost always) the runway becomes a soccer field
from noon to 1. The players are also very good about keeping away of
planes in the pattern I'm told.

A low pass will clear deer and soccer players.

Margy

lol I bet it will

Ex-soccer coach here.
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:51:39 GMT, Benjamin Dover wrote:

That's right, your not Santa Claus, you're a ****ing asshole!

D00d, go see Bob for some Stress Debriefing. Develop a partnership with
Bob before an incident occurs. Prevention and planning are key
components for a sanity resumption plan. lol
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:52:42 GMT, who cares? wrote:

In article , 726 wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:52:17 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote:

Nobody is denying that accidents happen. We just put them into
perspective and if we decide to live on an airport, consider those
risks as part of that decision. Too hard for you to understand or
what?

Excellent counterpoint, you really hit all the high spots.
Is this sort of dialogue considered incisive debate in your circles or
merely witty banter?

Is the Subject Of This Thread too hard for you?

Airparks; Living On The Beaten Path?

You attack like a rabid Muppet on crack. It's clear as a
bright summer day why you get the treatment you get almost every time
you post. You foist the most ludicrous, self contradictory arguments
I've ever seen anyone even attempt in my entire life, then try and
defend them. You're absolutely insane. Obsessed.

Feel free to stay in character and scream about what a "troll" I am
some more for pointing out your glaringly obvious dishonesty.

Feel free to have the last word on me and expect no more gifts, I'm not
****ing Santa Claus.


I have been reading this group for ten years.

This guarantees that you are fourteen.

I am always pleased to see another post by BobR.
I consider his comments to be intelligent and well written.

So do I, add belligerent and mono-focused and we are right on

In your case: ** plonk **

Did you fall into a lake?
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