diesel 160-200HP engines

Here's an interesting new diesel engine with much lower operating costs.
Looks like it would fill the bill for a Glass Goose (which I'm considering)
very nicely. Waddya think? http://www.deltahawkengines.com/object00.htm

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"geo" wrote in message
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Here's an interesting new diesel engine with much lower operating costs.
Looks like it would fill the bill for a Glass Goose (which I'm
considering)
very nicely. Waddya think? http://www.deltahawkengines.com/object00.htm

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How Dubya stole the election: http://www.ericblumrich.com/gta.html

We've been waiting for these engines for a long time, but if you think that
they will be here when promised, then you might think Bush stole the
election, too. What a moron.
--
Jim in NC


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"Morgans" wrote in message
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"geo" wrote in message
news
Here's an interesting new diesel engine with much lower operating costs.
Looks like it would fill the bill for a Glass Goose (which I'm
considering)
very nicely. Waddya think? http://www.deltahawkengines.com/object00.htm

--
How Dubya stole the election: http://www.ericblumrich.com/gta.html

We've been waiting for these engines for a long time, but if you think
that
they will be here when promised, then you might think Bush stole the
election, too. What a moron.
--
Jim in NC

And you think that's ok. What a moron.
George in NY

That is a pretty over the top link, but politics aside, how many
homebuilders will spend that much for an engine? The cost of Deltahawk's
200 hp version was originally projected to be around 12 k$. (It was also
going to weigh about 100 lbs less than an IO-360.) It is now close to 30 k$
and who knows what it will be by the time that you actually buy one. There
may well be significant reliability advantages, much lower operating cost
advantages, and just the basic coolness of the gadget, but still, I don't
have that kind of money for an engine with no service record, no parts
network, no experienced repair stations, etc. etc. God bless for getting
this thing as far as they have, but I would expect that if this thing ever
goes into production, its primary application will be in a certified
aircraft where the cost of the powerplant is a small part of the total cost.
Steve

"geo" wrote in message
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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"geo" wrote in message
news
Here's an interesting new diesel engine with much lower operating
costs.
Looks like it would fill the bill for a Glass Goose (which I'm
considering)
very nicely. Waddya think?
http://www.deltahawkengines.com/object00.htm

--
How Dubya stole the election: http://www.ericblumrich.com/gta.html

We've been waiting for these engines for a long time, but if you think
that
they will be here when promised, then you might think Bush stole the
election, too. What a moron.
--
Jim in NC

And you think that's ok. What a moron.
George in NY

Steve Campbell wrote:
That is a pretty over the top link, but politics aside, how many
homebuilders will spend that much for an engine? The cost of Deltahawk's
200 hp version was originally projected to be around 12 k$. (It was also
going to weigh about 100 lbs less than an IO-360.) It is now close to 30 k$
and who knows what it will be by the time that you actually buy one. There
may well be significant reliability advantages, much lower operating cost
advantages, and just the basic coolness of the gadget, but still, I don't
have that kind of money for an engine with no service record, no parts
network, no experienced repair stations, etc. etc. God bless for getting
this thing as far as they have, but I would expect that if this thing ever
goes into production, its primary application will be in a certified
aircraft where the cost of the powerplant is a small part of the total cost.
Steve


I'll have to agree there. When I drove big trucks, one of the old time
guys was fond of saying that not just anyone could be a diesel mechanic.
For all the supposed simplicity, those things are finicky creatures.

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In m Ernest Christley
wrote:

I'll have to agree there. When I drove big trucks, one of the old
time guys was fond of saying that not just anyone could be a diesel
mechanic. For all the supposed simplicity, those things are finicky
creatures.

I agree. What will be needed are mechanics who will be required to have
a certain level of training and/or experience, maintain a level of
currency, and receive adequate training on the specific equipment before
they can work on it. Sounds kind of like an A&P mechanic.

FWIW, the "current" technology aircraft engines can also be finicky
creatures, for all their supposed simplicity.

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"geo" wrote in message
news
Here's an interesting new diesel engine with much lower operating costs.
Looks like it would fill the bill for a Glass Goose (which I'm
considering)
very nicely. Waddya think? http://www.deltahawkengines.com/object00.htm

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When we looked for a suitable engine two years ago we came across this too.
They had about the same availability table up, except it read '2002', not
'2004'.

Rob

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 08:00:32 +0100, "Rob Turk"
wrote:

"geo" wrote in message
news
Here's an interesting new diesel engine with much lower operating costs.
Looks like it would fill the bill for a Glass Goose (which I'm
considering)
very nicely. Waddya think? http://www.deltahawkengines.com/object00.htm

--

When we looked for a suitable engine two years ago we came across this too.
They had about the same availability table up, except it read '2002', not
'2004'.

Rob

Unlike the mythical Zoche engine, the Deltahawk diesel has now flown,
and continues to build time in the Cozy test mule. At least we can
see that progress is being made. It's still hard to tell exactly when
the engine will be made available but it's hard to deny that that date
is within reach now.

Corky Scott

Yet just this week they posted the requirements for the first orders. First
deliveries will be in late 2004. It appears they are now finally ready.
You may also look at the report of a 6+ hour over-redline stress test. They
finally broke it - the prop that is. The engine survived without a problem. I
hope they succeed since Thielert of Germany is all ready in production of a 150
HP certified diesel engine. They need to catch up.

Mike


Rob Turk wrote:

"geo" wrote in message
news
Here's an interesting new diesel engine with much lower operating costs.
Looks like it would fill the bill for a Glass Goose (which I'm
considering)
very nicely. Waddya think? http://www.deltahawkengines.com/object00.htm

--

When we looked for a suitable engine two years ago we came across this too.
They had about the same availability table up, except it read '2002', not
'2004'.

Rob

"Mike Wanninger" wrote in message
...
Yet just this week they posted the requirements for the first orders.
First
deliveries will be in late 2004. It appears they are now finally ready.
You may also look at the report of a 6+ hour over-redline stress test.
They
finally broke it - the prop that is. The engine survived without a
problem. I
hope they succeed since Thielert of Germany is all ready in production of
a 150
HP certified diesel engine. They need to catch up.

Mike



Well that's good news then. I was very close to getting a diesel for our
experimental, but the only available engine at the time was too heavy for
our airframe. I still think diesel engines will take off, but there's
several companies out there who have promised products forever without any
appearant progress. Can you say 'Zoche'?

Rob