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Old May 25th 04, 06:15 AM
X98
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Default Death toll now 10 times 9/11

THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF SORROWS!

Soon Bush will have murdered more people than any man known to man. He
is a beast who, God says, will one day, 42 months after he declares
marshal law, come to his end and no one will help him!


Nemo Me Impune Lacessit

Ali Andrew X98
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Death toll now 10 times 9/11
From correspondents in Baghdad
May 25, 2004

MORE than 5500 Iraqis died violently in just Baghdad and three
provinces in the first 12 months of the US-led occupation, according
to a survey by international news agency Associated Press.

The toll from both criminal and political violence ran dramatically
higher than violent deaths before the war, AP reported yesterday,
citing morgue statistics.

There were no reliable figures for places such as Fallujah and Najaf,
that had seen heavy fighting since early April. Indeed, there is no
precise death toll for Iraq as a whole, nor is there a breakdown of
deaths caused by the different sorts of attacks.

But the AP survey of morgues in Baghdad and the provinces of Karbala,
Kirkuk and Tikrit found 5558 violent deaths recorded from May 1, 2003,
when US President George W. Bush declared an end to major combat
operations, to April 30.

The survey was not a comprehensive compilation of the nationwide death
toll, but was a sampling intended to assess the levels of violence.
Figures for violent deaths in the months before the war showed a far
lower rate.

That does not mean Iraq is a more dangerous place than during Saddam
Hussein's regime. At least 300,000 people were murdered by security
forces and buried in mass graves during his 23-year rule, US officials
say, and human rights workers put the number closer to 500,000.

Even so, the morgue figures, which exclude trauma deaths from
accidents such as car crashes and falls, highlight the insecurity
Iraqis feel from the criminal and political violence, and underline
the challenges facing coalition forces.

In Baghdad, a city of about 5.6 million, 4279 people were recorded
killed in the 12 months to April 30, according to figures provided by
Kais Hassan, director of statistics at Baghdad's Medico-Legal
Institute, which administers the city's morgues.

The figure does not include most people killed in terrorist bombings,
when the cause of death is obvious so bodies are usually not taken to
the morgue, but given directly to victims' families. Also, the bodies
of killed fighters from militia groups such as Mehdi Army are rarely
taken to morgues.

The death toll recorded by the Baghdad morgue was an average of 357
violent deaths each month from May through April. That contrasts with
an average of 14 a month for 2002, Mr Hassan said.

The toll translates into an annual homicide rate of about 76 killings
for every 100,000 people. By comparison, Bogota, Colombia, reported 39
homicides per 100,000 people in 2002, while New York City had about
7.5 per 100,000 last year.

Iraq's neighbour, Jordan, with a population a little less than
Baghdad's, recorded about 2.4 homicides per 100,000 in 2003.

Other morgues visited by AP reporters also reported big increases in
violent deaths. In Karbala, population 1.5 million, 663 people were
killed from May to April, or an average of 55 a month, compared with
one a month in 2002.

Tikrit, population 650,000, recorded 205 deaths in the same period, or
an average of 17 a month. Morgue official Najat Khorshid Sa'id said no
one died from violence in 2002. In Kirkuk, a population of 1.5 million
people, 401 people were killed, or an average of 34 a month, compared
with three a month in 2002.

The Associated Press


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Old May 25th 04, 08:22 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"X98" wrote in message
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THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF SORROWS!

Soon Bush will have murdered more people than any man known to man. He
is a beast who, God says, will one day, 42 months after he declares
marshal law, come to his end and no one will help him!


What hard evidence do you have?


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Old May 25th 04, 09:11 PM
Robey Price
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After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, X98
confessed the following:

THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF SORROWS!


Ha! Boston Red Sox fans know sorrow, AKA The Curse of the Bambino. MLB
fans know sorrow, and his name is Bud Selig.

Soon Bush will have murdered more people than any man known to man.


Pffftttt....your math skills and googling skills need a tune up.

These numbers come from R.J. Rummel, a political scientist at the
University of Hawaii who studies mass killing.
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/PERSONAL.HTM

Rummel's genocide figures are more inclusive than some--in fact, he
prefers the term "democide," which he defines as "the murder of any
person or people by a government, including genocide, politicide, and
mass murder." Genocide is killing due to ethnicity, religion, or other
"indelible group membership," whereas politicide is murder for
political reasons. Democide excludes deaths due to war (36.5 million
between 1900 and 1987) and reckless but not purposely murderous
government policies--for example, the loss of over 20 million Chinese
during the famine of 1959-'62, which was caused by the failure of the
Great Leap Forward.

Defining terms this way puts the Nazi slaughter in perspective. The
following are Rummel's 12 most murderous regimes (from his article in
the Encyclopedia of Genocide, 1999): (1) USSR, 62 million deaths,
1917-'87; (2) People's Republic of China, 35 million, 1949-'87; (3)
Germany, 21 million, 1933-'45; (4) nationalist China, 10 million,
1928-'49; (5) Japan, 6 million, 1936-'45; (6) prerevolutionary Chinese
communists ("Mao Soviets"), 3.5 million, 1923-'49; (7) Cambodia, 2
million, 1975-'79; (8) Turkey (Armenian genocide), 1.9 million,
1909-'18; (9) Vietnam, 1.7 million, 1945-'87; (10) Poland, 1.6
million, 1945-'48; (11) Pakistan, 1.5 million, 1958-'87; (12)
Yugoslavia, 1.1 million, 1944-'87. Three additional "suspected
megamurderers," as Rummel puts it, are North Korea, 1.7 million
deaths, 1948-'87; Mexico, 1.4 million, 1900-'20; and czarist Russia,
1.1 million, 1900-'17.

Rummel goes on to identify the top nine killers: (1) Joseph Stalin, 43
million dead, 1929-'53; (2) Mao Tse-tung, 38 million, 1923-'76; (3)
Adolf Hitler, 21 million, 1933-'45; (4) Chiang Kai-shek, 10 million,
1921-'48; (5) Vladimir Lenin, 4 million, 1917-'24; (6) Tojo Hideki
(Japan), 4 million, 1941-'45; (7) Pol Pot, 2.4 million, 1968-'87; (8)
Yahya Khan (Pakistan), 1.5 million, 1971; (9) Josip Broz, better known
as Marshal Tito (Yugoslavia), 1.2 million, 1941-'80.

He is a beast who...


Nah...he's a Texan, sorta.

God says, will one day, 42 months after he declares
marshal law, come to his end and no one will help him!


Ummm, who is declaring marshal [sic] law? God? So god is talking these
days huh? According to Pat Robertson, god told him GWB is going to be
re-elected in a landslide in Nov.

Nemo Me Impune Lacessit


No one provokes me with impunity...you sure about that?

Juvat

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Old May 25th 04, 11:49 PM
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"X98" wrote in message
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WACOun...ed/message/712

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Death toll now 10 times 9/11
From correspondents in Baghdad
May 25, 2004

MORE than 5500 Iraqis died violently in just Baghdad and three
provinces in the first 12 months of the US-led occupation,


Apparently besides being an utter kookoo you're also innumerate. 5500 is
not ten times the approximately 3300 people killed in the Sept 11th attacks.

tim gueguen 101867


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Old May 26th 04, 08:34 AM
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Defining terms this way puts the Nazi slaughter in perspective. The
following are Rummel's 12 most murderous regimes (from his article in
the Encyclopedia of Genocide, 1999): (1) USSR, 62 million deaths,
1917-'87; (2) People's Republic of China, 35 million, 1949-'87; (3)
Germany, 21 million, 1933-'45; (4) nationalist China, 10 million,
1928-'49; (5) Japan, 6 million, 1936-'45; (6) prerevolutionary Chinese
communists ("Mao Soviets"), 3.5 million, 1923-'49; (7) Cambodia, 2
million, 1975-'79; (8) Turkey (Armenian genocide), 1.9 million,
1909-'18; (9) Vietnam, 1.7 million, 1945-'87; (10) Poland, 1.6
million, 1945-'48; (11) Pakistan, 1.5 million, 1958-'87; (12)
Yugoslavia, 1.1 million, 1944-'87. Three additional "suspected
megamurderers," as Rummel puts it, are North Korea, 1.7 million
deaths, 1948-'87; Mexico, 1.4 million, 1900-'20; and czarist Russia,
1.1 million, 1900-'17.

Rummel goes on to identify the top nine killers: (1) Joseph Stalin, 43
million dead, 1929-'53; (2) Mao Tse-tung, 38 million, 1923-'76; (3)
Adolf Hitler, 21 million, 1933-'45; (4) Chiang Kai-shek, 10 million,
1921-'48; (5) Vladimir Lenin, 4 million, 1917-'24; (6) Tojo Hideki
(Japan), 4 million, 1941-'45; (7) Pol Pot, 2.4 million, 1968-'87; (8)
Yahya Khan (Pakistan), 1.5 million, 1971; (9) Josip Broz, better known
as Marshal Tito (Yugoslavia), 1.2 million, 1941-'80.


US killed 3 million people in the Vietnam war, including 1 million who
died due to the Agent Orange/White/Blue chemical weapons.

Korean war is 1 million +.

WWII Dresden 130k dead, firebombing of Tokyo also 130K , Hirosima 250k,
Nagasaki 100+k dead.


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Old May 26th 04, 09:40 AM
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"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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US killed 3 million people in the Vietnam war, including 1 million who
died due to the Agent Orange/White/Blue chemical weapons.


Not even the Vietnamese Government make that claim

Korean war is 1 million +.


Of whom 400,000 were South Korean civilians
killed by the Chinese and DPRK forces, 300,000
soldiers of the DPRK and 110,000 soldiers of the
PLA

Starting wars will get your soldiers killed

WWII Dresden 130k dead, firebombing of Tokyo also 130K , Hirosima 250k,
Nagasaki 100+k dead.


Not to forget the 12 million civilians killed by the
Germans or 20 million civilians killed by the Japanese

Starting wars will get your people killed

Keith




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Old May 26th 04, 09:40 AM
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"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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US killed 3 million people in the Vietnam war, including 1 million who
died due to the Agent Orange/White/Blue chemical weapons.


Not even the Vietnamese Government make that claim

Korean war is 1 million +.


Of whom 400,000 were South Korean civilians
killed by the Chinese and DPRK forces, 300,000
soldiers of the DPRK and 110,000 soldiers of the
PLA

Starting wars will get your soldiers killed

WWII Dresden 130k dead, firebombing of Tokyo also 130K , Hirosima 250k,
Nagasaki 100+k dead.


Not to forget the 12 million civilians killed by the
Germans or 20 million civilians killed by the Japanese

Starting wars will get your people killed

Keith




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Old May 26th 04, 09:40 AM
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"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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US killed 3 million people in the Vietnam war, including 1 million who
died due to the Agent Orange/White/Blue chemical weapons.


Not even the Vietnamese Government make that claim

Korean war is 1 million +.


Of whom 400,000 were South Korean civilians
killed by the Chinese and DPRK forces, 300,000
soldiers of the DPRK and 110,000 soldiers of the
PLA

Starting wars will get your soldiers killed

WWII Dresden 130k dead, firebombing of Tokyo also 130K , Hirosima 250k,
Nagasaki 100+k dead.


Not to forget the 12 million civilians killed by the
Germans or 20 million civilians killed by the Japanese

Starting wars will get your people killed

Keith




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Old June 11th 04, 05:16 AM
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"X98" wrote in message
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THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF SORROWS!

Soon Bush will have murdered more people than any man known to man.


FMD, he has a fair bit of work to do then. hes gonna have to go nuclear to
catch up in the 4 or so years hes got left to get into the top ten.

Your figures also seem to ignore the 70,000 or so a year that liberating
Iraq has saved (Figures from Bob Cotgrove University of Tas), in fact if the
death toll is only 10 x that of 9/11 that puts it at around 30,000 per
annum - leaving a surplus of around 40,000 extra Iraqis per year.

Go nuclear now George or you'll never make the top10, let alone secure first
place.


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Old June 11th 04, 05:23 AM
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Go nuclear now George or you'll never make the top10, let alone secure first
place.


First, he has to pick an ethnic race. Otherwise, how can he ever compete with
the professionals.
 




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