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Air Force One
I was watching the PBS documentary they were showing this week about AF1, and as they had shown the progression from the planes used back in Franklin Roosevelt's tenure as President, to the B707 from Kennedy to Reagan, to the current AF1 (at least that they showed in the documentary, since Bush Jr. was in it), to be a B742 variant. It got me wondering... The B742 is just about all phased out, with the B744 and the B777 doing the majority of the long haul runs of the Boeing line (yes, the 767 series is there, but doesn't have the range of the 747 and 777), So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions? BL. -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF |
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Does the Gov't have a contract with Airbus, which could present the A380? Somehow I rather doubt that the president (and certainly not the current administration) would buy Airbus. all the best -- Dan Ford (email: info AT danford.net) see the Warbird's Forum at http://www.danford.net/index.htm Vietnam | Flying Tigers | Pacific War | Brewster Buffalo | Piper Cub |
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You don't care, you won't be around.
They flew the 707 until the only other operators were flying dodgy cargo trips into South America with it. They'll fly the 747 until the same situation applies. Then they'll buy American, even if that means a Citation X because Boeing bit the big one. Mat -- Matthew Waugh Comm. SEL MEL, CFI-AI http://home.nc.rr.com/mwaugh/learn2fly/index.htm "A Guy Called Tyketto" wrote in message ... I was watching the PBS documentary they were showing this week about AF1, and as they had shown the progression from the planes used back in Franklin Roosevelt's tenure as President, to the B707 from Kennedy to Reagan, to the current AF1 (at least that they showed in the documentary, since Bush Jr. was in it), to be a B742 variant. It got me wondering... The B742 is just about all phased out, with the B744 and the B777 doing the majority of the long haul runs of the Boeing line (yes, the 767 series is there, but doesn't have the range of the 747 and 777), So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions? BL. -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF |
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Hash: SHA1 In rec.aviation.piloting Matthew Waugh wrote: You don't care, you won't be around. They flew the 707 until the only other operators were flying dodgy cargo trips into South America with it. They'll fly the 747 until the same situation applies. Then they'll buy American, even if that means a Citation X because Boeing bit the big one. Mat Actually, I do care. otherwise, I wouldn't have posted. I thought it was interesting about the succession of aircrafts used as Air Force One, and wanted to get people's opinions on which would be the next in the line. But since you seem to know how I feel and what my thoughts are, then you should know that with a post like this, I wouldn't care what you thought. But I digress. BL. - -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/CStmyBkZmuMZ8L8RAh62AKD2doFBHmbkDQTUNumoknzHGMvK6Q CdGT2m Klg0Hu4HVpuFBcqQXY1bvX0= =+531 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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In article , A Guy Called
Tyketto wrote: [snip] So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions? It might depend on Boeing. IIRC, during the competition for the VC-25, Boeing effectively said that they would do anything and everything to win the contract. iow - the President was going to be flying in a Boeing aircraft. -- Bob Noel |
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There is no way that this administration would buy Airbus or any other
aircraft with a French connection. There would not be any contest, it would be Boeing all the way. Bob -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Are you still wasting your time with spam?... There is a solution!" Protected by GIANT Company's Spam Inspector The most powerful anti-spam software available. http://www.giantcompany.com "Bob Noel" wrote in message ... In article , A Guy Called Tyketto wrote: [snip] So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions? It might depend on Boeing. IIRC, during the competition for the VC-25, Boeing effectively said that they would do anything and everything to win the contract. iow - the President was going to be flying in a Boeing aircraft. -- Bob Noel |
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Robert Browne wrote:
There is no way that this administration would buy Airbus or any other aircraft with a French connection. I just had a Gene Hackman flashback, so I thought would look the movie up at IMDB. I found it... It said, In 2003, this movie was renamed "Freedom Connection". |
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So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions? It might depend on Boeing. IIRC, during the competition for the VC-25, Boeing effectively said that they would do anything and everything to win the contract. iow - the President was going to be flying in a Boeing aircraft. I vaguely remember somehting about AF1 being required to have four engines (here's the 2 vs.4 ETOPS argument again...). Urban legend or not? Think Boeing could hang two extra engines on a Vista-Cruiser or whatever they've decided to call the 7E7 when the time comes?? :-) |
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Vista-Cruiser or whatever they've decided to call the 7E7 Dreamliner. I think two engines would qualify, if the single-engine performance is up to standard. The FAA came around. (I remember how startled I was in 1986 to find myself flying over the South China Sea in a two-engine Airbus, having been persuaded by the FAA how necessary four engines were to my personal safety.) all the best -- Dan Ford (email: info AT danford.net) see the Warbird's Forum at http://www.danford.net/index.htm Vietnam | Flying Tigers | Pacific War | Brewster Buffalo | Piper Cub |
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In article , Matthew Mayer
wrote: I vaguely remember somehting about AF1 being required to have four engines (here's the 2 vs.4 ETOPS argument again...). Urban legend or not? Think Boeing could hang two extra engines on a Vista-Cruiser or whatever they've decided to call the 7E7 when the time comes?? :-) I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that it will be 777 over a 7E7. How else will they be able to carry all those media flacks? |
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