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Old July 20th 04, 09:45 PM
Paul J. Adam
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In message 9FYKc.6488$Zr.1705@okepread01, Billy Preston
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"Paul J. Adam" wrote
"No, no, no! Sentence first, verdict later!"


Right, he gets the same trial that the people in New York and DC did
before they died.


You're bothering with a trial? Why? He's a suspect, kill him. The
Government says so and the Government is entirely honest and
trustworthy.

Just because some old farts wrote a "constitution" a few hundred years
ago, people like you think Padilla has any rights at all.

Next you'll start mouthing platitudes about "evidence" and mumble some
limp-wristed nonsense about "innocent until proven guilty" as an excuse
for why you don't have the guts to protect your country and go kill him
yourself.

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He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
Julius Caesar I:2

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Old July 21st 04, 12:50 PM
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WalterM140 wrote:

Except that Padilla is still incarcerated.


But he is not incarcerated without access to due process.


How is that true?


An illegal combatant must be provided the opportunity
to present evidence showing why he should be entitled
to Prisoner of War status (instead of "illegal combatant").
Padilla either has none to present, or his defense was
determined to be insufficient proof by a military
tribunal.

It seems the court took the stance that he can have
access to legal representation in this matter. (A gray
area under the GC, which doesn't address legal help
requirements for illegal combatants.)
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Old July 21st 04, 10:14 PM
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:09:17 -0700, Fred the Red Shirt wrote:

"Billy Preston" wrote in message news:SxDKc.6363$Zr.654@okepread01...
Not when a citizen --any citizen-- is denied due process.


Due process in war, is a blade in the gut, and a slicing movement
to cut the artery. **** him.


Kill them all, let God sort them out. Nobody lives forever.


Montforte.


I thought it was some papal representative at Carcassonne
and the quote was:

"Kill them all, God will know his own"

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Old July 21st 04, 10:29 PM
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:18:27 -0500, Billy Preston wrote:

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No that would be cruel and un-Islamic.
Behead him.


"No, no, no! Sentence first, verdict later!"


Right, he gets the same trial that the people in New York and DC did
before they died.


OK, I retract my previous post.
I say we dip him in hog lard, set him on fire,
throw him off a cliff then blast the cliff down
on top of him.

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Old July 21st 04, 10:38 PM
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"ian maclure" wrote
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:18:27 -0500, Billy Preston wrote:

[snip]

No that would be cruel and un-Islamic.
Behead him.

"No, no, no! Sentence first, verdict later!"


Right, he gets the same trial that the people in New York and DC did
before they died.


OK, I retract my previous post.
I say we dip him in hog lard, set him on fire,
throw him off a cliff then blast the cliff down
on top of him.


Too Jewish...


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Old July 21st 04, 11:19 PM
Paul J. Adam
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In message , ian maclure
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I thought it was some papal representative at Carcassonne
and the quote was:

"Kill them all, God will know his own"


I've read it as Beziers, during the crusade against the Albigensian
heretics. The Papal nuncio was being asked how the crusaders should tell
the faithful from the heretic and settled for the simplicity of total
extermination.

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He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
Julius Caesar I:2

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Old July 22nd 04, 03:53 AM
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"Paul J. Adam" wrote in
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In message , ian maclure
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I thought it was some papal representative at Carcassonne
and the quote was:

"Kill them all, God will know his own"


I've read it as Beziers, during the crusade against the Albigensian


Ah Beziers, famous for its twisted curvy streets

heretics. The Papal nuncio was being asked how the crusaders should tell
the faithful from the heretic and settled for the simplicity of total
extermination.


You may well be correct about location.
I though the Cathars were the object of papal displeasure in this
case but you are closer to the source than I am

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