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Old July 20th 09, 08:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
D Ramapriya
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Was wondering about this term "near-miss"... shouldn't a near-miss
actually be a collision and a near-collision a miss?

Ramapriya
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Old July 20th 09, 10:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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D Ramapriya wrote:
shouldn't a near-miss actually be a collision


No. This would be a nearly-miss.
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Old July 20th 09, 02:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jul 20, 3:36*am, D Ramapriya wrote:
Was wondering about this term "near-miss"... shouldn't a near-miss
actually be a collision and a near-collision a miss?

Ramapriya


A 'Near Miss' means there's an unmarried woman in the immediate
proximity. It's an important issue because some people who used to
post here a lot had restraining orders preventing them from being near
misses.
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Old July 20th 09, 03:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jul 20, 8:56*am, a wrote:
On Jul 20, 3:36*am, D Ramapriya wrote:

Was wondering about this term "near-miss"... shouldn't a near-miss
actually be a collision and a near-collision a miss?


Ramapriya


A 'Near Miss' *means there's an unmarried woman in the immediate
proximity. It's an important issue because some people who used to
post here a lot had restraining orders preventing them from being near
misses.


Or Mrs. (which is a nearly-Miss, see also: milf)
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Old July 21st 09, 08:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jul 20, 2:36*am, D Ramapriya wrote:
Was wondering about this term "near-miss"... shouldn't a near-miss
actually be a collision and a near-collision a miss?

Ramapriya


I agree.
"Near miss" seems, logically, to indicate that there WAS a collision
but was "nearly" missed.
The oddity of the english language.

Ricky
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Old July 21st 09, 04:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jul 20, 4:24*pm, Clark wrote:
D Ramapriya wrote in news:0850a07f-9837-4575-92c0-
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Was wondering about this term "near-miss"... shouldn't a near-miss
actually be a collision and a near-collision a miss?


Ramapriya


No. It seems some folks fail to understand that a "miss" can be near or far
and still be a miss.



It's the hyphenation that makes the "near" more an adjective than
adverb. "Near miss" would be a lot clearer than "near-miss". While a
near-miss in itself doesn't mean a collision, just as not unreasonable
doesn't = reasonable, it does indicate that a miss was nearly missed.
After all, a near-death experience shows a brush with death, ergo a
near-collision would be nearer the intended conveyance than near-miss.

The engine at full throttle, when the opposite is apropos, is another
such term...

The pettifoggery of semantics

Ramapriya
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Old July 22nd 09, 05:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jul 21, 8:27*pm, Clark wrote:
D Ramapriya wrote in news:80432c67-1153-4b0f-ab44-

Poppycock. All the hyphenation means is that the words in the phrase can't be
separated and retain the same meaning.

Stop making things up and you'll have a much easier time in life.


Thanks for your time, counsel and erudition, mate.

Ramapriya
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Old July 21st 09, 06:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Clark wrote:
D Ramapriya wrote:
Was wondering about this term "near-miss"... shouldn't a near-miss
actually be a collision and a near-collision a miss?


No. It seems some folks fail to understand that a "miss" can be near
or far and still be a miss.


Sorry, but the phrase "far miss" appears at best to be an oxymoron. In fact
"near miss" appears in various Thesaurus as a synonym for "collision".
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Old July 21st 09, 07:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jim Logajan wrote:

Sorry, but the phrase "far miss" appears at best to be an oxymoron. In fact
"near miss" appears in various Thesaurus as a synonym for "collision".


Let me guess: Those were online thesauri?
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Old July 22nd 09, 12:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jul 21, 2:27*pm, John Smith wrote:
Jim Logajan wrote:
Sorry, but the phrase "far miss" appears at best to be an oxymoron. In fact
"near miss" appears in various Thesaurus as a synonym for "collision".


Let me guess: Those were online thesauri?


This is an aviation themed forum, and among those who speak airplane
the meaning of near miss is well understood.

 




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