EU as joke (modified)

There are two tunes being played he a military occupation and the
construction of a free society.

You were told not to do it.You did it anyways.

Yeah, that creating a free society bit is really annoying a lot of
Europe.

And best friends of USA have traditionally been military dictatorships, why
is that?

"Emmanuel Gustin" wrote in message
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"Chris Mark" wrote in message
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"Erst kommt das Fressen, dann die Moral"

'Erst fressen, dann kommt die Morale' IIRC

Great post!

John

"John Mullen" schrieb:

"Erst kommt das Fressen, dann die Moral"

'Erst fressen, dann kommt die Morale' IIRC

Great post!

No, Emmanuel has used the right quote.

John

Mahlzeit. ;-)

Gruss, Roman

From: "Emmanuel Gustin"

"Chris Mark" wrote in message
The European Right's anti-Americanism stems fundamentally from our
continent's loss during the twentieth century of its six-hundred-year
leadership role.

Please get the attribution correct. The comments are not mine, but
Jean-Francois Revel's.

You might have been interested in last September's conference at Johns Hopkins'
Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, "Competing Visions of
Europe and America."
The conference took up the questions "Does culture matter in transatlantic
politics?", What does it mean to be American?", "What does it mean to be
European?", and "What do our assumptions about who we are mean for
transatlantic relations?"
Among the speakers were the redoubtable Bernard-Henri Levy, France (and
probably Europe's) leading thinker, and Pierre Hassner, professor at the
Institute of Political Studies and Center for International Studies and
Research at the National Foundation for Political Sciences in Paris.
Levy described himself as an anti-anti-American, a position to which Hassner
ascribed, as well. Levy described America as Europe's paladin. In contrast to
your assertion that "the real reasons for the increasing tension between Europe
and America are the different cultural values...." they and others, including
the Italian poet and novelist Roberto Pazzi ("Conclave"), emphasized that our
values are the same.
I'll take their word for it--not yours.


Chris Mark

In article , "tadaa" wrote:

There are two tunes being played he a military occupation and the
construction of a free society.

You were told not to do it.You did it anyways.

Yeah, that creating a free society bit is really annoying a lot of
Europe.

And best friends of USA have traditionally been military dictatorships, why
is that?

Which part of "overthrowing Saddam" did you not understand?

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

"Roman J. Rohleder" wrote in message
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"John Mullen" schrieb:

"Erst kommt das Fressen, dann die Moral"

'Erst fressen, dann kommt die Morale' IIRC

Great post!

No, Emmanuel has used the right quote.

Oops!

Tut mir leid

John

After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, Emmanuel
Gustin blurted out:

And I am frankly sick and tired of the intellectual laziness and
dishonesty of a certain kind of Americans, who dismiss any
foreign critique of current US policy (and that is policy, not
even culture or values) as anti-Americanism. (Just like they
dismiss similar criticism, when it comes from their own
countrymen, as un-American.)

Well said! I'd love to have a beer with you some day.

As if the fact that someone doesn't like the ideas of George W. Bush
and his cronies also implies a dislike of all Americans, including
John Doe, who lives in Maine and didn't even vote for him...

Fortunately we have a two-term limit (8 years max) for occupying the
Oval Office.

Juvat

In a sense it is less the difference of opinions
between Europeans and Americans that is driving them apart,
than the contempt publicly shown by people who ought to know
better --- for example Rumsfeld's jibe about 'Old Europe'.

Or Chirac's attempt to "put under his thumb" any eastern European nation who
supported the US against Iraq.

And I am frankly sick and tired of the intellectual laziness and
dishonesty of a certain kind of Americans, who dismiss any
foreign critique of current US policy (and that is policy, not
even culture or values) as anti-Americanism.

LOL...yeah, there's no intellectual laziness in Europe, that quote from a
European may be the biggest case of "pot-kettle" I've seen in print. European
leftists began bashing Bush from the moment he took office, interestingly
enough for his "isolationist views". Such opinions were formed over such
things as his Texas accent, his and Cheney's work in the oil buisness and the
fact he had a ranch in Texas. Universally most of Europe knows Bush as a
"cowboy". Talk about intellectual laziness.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

You were told not to do it.You did it anyways. Quit whining and pay the
bill.

The US whining? This must be European hipocrit day on RAM.

If you want to play humane world helper, why don't you start from Africa?


This from a European? Pot-kettle.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

And best friends of USA have traditionally been military dictatorships, why
is that?

Any Brits, Aussies, Japanese or Canucks offended at being refered to like that?


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"