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Old February 12th 07, 01:32 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Passed on to me from a friend - evidently the pilot's windshield cracked at
27k feet, the crew dumped pressurization per the checklist and donned
oxygen - only there wasn't any coming to the masks. They passed out and woke
up at about 7000 ft and had to pull out of the dive. As you can see, did a
real number on the empennage and buckled the wings. God smiled upon these
lads, no doubt about it. (Did someone mention VNE?)
You can Google N777AJ
























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Old February 12th 07, 01:41 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Default Overstressed King Air

"Alan" wrote in
:

Passed on to me from a friend - evidently the pilot's windshield cracked
at 27k feet, the crew dumped pressurization per the checklist and donned
oxygen - only there wasn't any coming to the masks. They passed out and
woke up at about 7000 ft and had to pull out of the dive.



Sounds like grounds for litigation to me...........




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Old February 12th 07, 01:48 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
John Szalay
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"Alan" wrote in
mention VNE?) You can Google N777AJ


NTSB Identification: CHI07LA063
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Friday, February 02, 2007 in Cape Girardeau, MO
Aircraft: Raytheon Aircraft Company B200, registration: N777AJ
Injuries: 2 Uninjured.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain
errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final
report has been completed.

On February 2, 2007, about 1030 central standard time, a Raytheon
Aircraft Company B200, N777AJ, sustained substantial damage during an
uncontrolled descent and recovery from cruise at flight level 270.
Visual meteorological conditions prevailed at the time of the accident.
The flightcrew reported that they depressurized the airplane after
noticing cracking of the airplane windshield. They then donned their
oxygen masks but were unable to obtain oxygen from the oxygen system
resulting in their loss of consciousness. They later regained
consciousness, recovered from the descent, and landed without further
incident at Cape Girardeau Regional Airport, Cape Girardeau, Missouri.
The 14 CFR Part 91 flight was operating on an instrument rules flight
plan. The pilot and copilot were uninjured. The flight originated from
Rogers Municipal Airport-Carter Field, Rogers, Arkansas, at 0939.

On-scene inspection of the airplane noted that approximately 2/3 of the
left horizontal stabilizer and elevator were separated from the aircraft
and 2/3 of the right elevator was separated but attached at the inboard
hinge. The left and right wings were wrinkled. The left pilot windshield
outer and inner ply were intact. The inner ply exhibited a shattered
appearance with a crack at the lower right hand corner of the
windshield. The cabin pressurization dump switch was in the dump
position.

The oxygen system worked when it was functionally tested in accordance
with Airplane Flight Manual.


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Old February 12th 07, 01:58 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
CWO4 Dave Mann
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Default Overstressed King Air

Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Alan" wrote in
:

Passed on to me from a friend - evidently the pilot's windshield cracked
at 27k feet, the crew dumped pressurization per the checklist and donned
oxygen - only there wasn't any coming to the masks. They passed out and
woke up at about 7000 ft and had to pull out of the dive.



Sounds like grounds for litigation to me...........





0. Remember that the flight recorder hears every word
0a. "Ah, non-pertinent remark"
0b. "Wonder what bird flies at FL27?
0c. "I smell something, is that you?"

1. Perform Preflight checklist -- O2 pressure in limits?

2. Don O2 masks and confirm supply switches on auto

3. In-flight emergency checklist
3a. Call out mayday or Pan message to ATC
3b. Squawk transponder to emergency
3c. Begin descent
3d. Alert Pax, if any
3e. Reduce pressure with steady downward reduction curve

4. RTB and find the responsible mech
4a. Punch his lights out
4b Call the boss tell him his plane is a no go for tomorrow's
Gambler's Special and Hookers Hook-up in Las Vegas

5. Change underwear

6. Go to nearest church and thank G-d

7. Get drunk as a skunk
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Old February 12th 07, 02:18 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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the oxymoron bird flies at 27K?
"CWO4 Dave Mann" wrote in message
. ..
Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Alan" wrote in
:
Passed on to me from a friend - evidently the pilot's windshield cracked
at 27k feet, the crew dumped pressurization per the checklist and donned
oxygen - only there wasn't any coming to the masks. They passed out and
woke up at about 7000 ft and had to pull out of the dive.



Sounds like grounds for litigation to me...........





0. Remember that the flight recorder hears every word
0a. "Ah, non-pertinent remark"
0b. "Wonder what bird flies at FL27?
0c. "I smell something, is that you?"

1. Perform Preflight checklist -- O2 pressure in limits?

2. Don O2 masks and confirm supply switches on auto

3. In-flight emergency checklist
3a. Call out mayday or Pan message to ATC
3b. Squawk transponder to emergency
3c. Begin descent
3d. Alert Pax, if any
3e. Reduce pressure with steady downward reduction curve

4. RTB and find the responsible mech
4a. Punch his lights out
4b Call the boss tell him his plane is a no go for tomorrow's Gambler's
Special and Hookers Hook-up in Las Vegas

5. Change underwear

6. Go to nearest church and thank G-d

7. Get drunk as a skunk



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Old February 12th 07, 02:44 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Dale
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Default Overstressed King Air

In article ,
Mitchell Holman wrote:

"Alan" wrote in
:

Passed on to me from a friend - evidently the pilot's windshield cracked
at 27k feet, the crew dumped pressurization per the checklist and donned
oxygen - only there wasn't any coming to the masks. They passed out and
woke up at about 7000 ft and had to pull out of the dive.



Sounds like grounds for litigation to me...........





That NTSB report said the O2 system worked on the ground. It also said
the crew dumped pressurization THEN donned masks...perhaps doing that in
the reverse order would have been better.
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Old February 12th 07, 03:07 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Default Overstressed King Air

That last line says alot.

John Szalay wrote:

"Alan" wrote in

mention VNE?) You can Google N777AJ



NTSB Identification: CHI07LA063
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Friday, February 02, 2007 in Cape Girardeau, MO
Aircraft: Raytheon Aircraft Company B200, registration: N777AJ
Injuries: 2 Uninjured.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain
errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final
report has been completed.

On February 2, 2007, about 1030 central standard time, a Raytheon
Aircraft Company B200, N777AJ, sustained substantial damage during an
uncontrolled descent and recovery from cruise at flight level 270.
Visual meteorological conditions prevailed at the time of the accident.
The flightcrew reported that they depressurized the airplane after
noticing cracking of the airplane windshield. They then donned their
oxygen masks but were unable to obtain oxygen from the oxygen system
resulting in their loss of consciousness. They later regained
consciousness, recovered from the descent, and landed without further
incident at Cape Girardeau Regional Airport, Cape Girardeau, Missouri.
The 14 CFR Part 91 flight was operating on an instrument rules flight
plan. The pilot and copilot were uninjured. The flight originated from
Rogers Municipal Airport-Carter Field, Rogers, Arkansas, at 0939.

On-scene inspection of the airplane noted that approximately 2/3 of the
left horizontal stabilizer and elevator were separated from the aircraft
and 2/3 of the right elevator was separated but attached at the inboard
hinge. The left and right wings were wrinkled. The left pilot windshield
outer and inner ply were intact. The inner ply exhibited a shattered
appearance with a crack at the lower right hand corner of the
windshield. The cabin pressurization dump switch was in the dump
position.

The oxygen system worked when it was functionally tested in accordance
with Airplane Flight Manual.



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Old February 12th 07, 03:45 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
CWO4 Dave Mann
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Default Overstressed King Air

I am thinking maybe an ice chunk from the B757's aft crapper flying at FL39?

Anyways, I meant it all as humor. In reality, the last line of the NTSB
report intimates that if the system worked on the ground it had to work
in the air. How many of us believe that?

Cheers,

Dave




Herb wrote:
the oxymoron bird flies at 27K?
"CWO4 Dave Mann" wrote in message
. ..
Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Alan" wrote in
:
Passed on to me from a friend - evidently the pilot's windshield cracked
at 27k feet, the crew dumped pressurization per the checklist and donned
oxygen - only there wasn't any coming to the masks. They passed out and
woke up at about 7000 ft and had to pull out of the dive.

Sounds like grounds for litigation to me...........




0. Remember that the flight recorder hears every word
0a. "Ah, non-pertinent remark"
0b. "Wonder what bird flies at FL27?
0c. "I smell something, is that you?"

1. Perform Preflight checklist -- O2 pressure in limits?

2. Don O2 masks and confirm supply switches on auto

3. In-flight emergency checklist
3a. Call out mayday or Pan message to ATC
3b. Squawk transponder to emergency
3c. Begin descent
3d. Alert Pax, if any
3e. Reduce pressure with steady downward reduction curve

4. RTB and find the responsible mech
4a. Punch his lights out
4b Call the boss tell him his plane is a no go for tomorrow's Gambler's
Special and Hookers Hook-up in Las Vegas

5. Change underwear

6. Go to nearest church and thank G-d

7. Get drunk as a skunk



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Old February 12th 07, 08:19 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
John Szalay
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Default Overstressed King Air

CWO4 Dave Mann wrote in
:

I am thinking maybe an ice chunk from the B757's aft crapper flying at
FL39?

Anyways, I meant it all as humor. In reality, the last line of the
NTSB report intimates that if the system worked on the ground it had
to work in the air. How many of us believe that?

Cheers,

Dave



I wonder about one of the "other" report about debris from the aircraft
being seen falling around, but not striking a med-helicopter below them..


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Old February 12th 07, 09:39 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Alan[_1_]
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Dave,
I take issue at "finding the responsible mech".
In over 20 years of working on the model 200 I saw only one cracked
windshield was as a result of an improper installation (and it wasn't me so
don't go there). More often than not, it was turning on the W/S anti-ice on
later in climbout or at cruise that the pane cracked due to cold soak and
the resulting thermal shock. I think our heroic crew may share some
culpability on this miracle of survival. I don't know about the new one's
coming out but you have to arm the oxygen system to make it available for
use on the King Air. It's on the prestart checklist.
Change 0c. to 5.
Change 5. to 5a.

Alan

"CWO4 Dave Mann" wrote in message
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Alan" wrote in
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Passed on to me from a friend - evidently the pilot's windshield

cracked
at 27k feet, the crew dumped pressurization per the checklist and

donned
oxygen - only there wasn't any coming to the masks. They passed out and
woke up at about 7000 ft and had to pull out of the dive.



Sounds like grounds for litigation to me...........





0. Remember that the flight recorder hears every word
0a. "Ah, non-pertinent remark"
0b. "Wonder what bird flies at FL27?
0c. "I smell something, is that you?"

1. Perform Preflight checklist -- O2 pressure in limits?

2. Don O2 masks and confirm supply switches on auto

3. In-flight emergency checklist
3a. Call out mayday or Pan message to ATC
3b. Squawk transponder to emergency
3c. Begin descent
3d. Alert Pax, if any
3e. Reduce pressure with steady downward reduction curve

4. RTB and find the responsible mech
4a. Punch his lights out
4b Call the boss tell him his plane is a no go for tomorrow's
Gambler's Special and Hookers Hook-up in Las Vegas

5. Change underwear

6. Go to nearest church and thank G-d

7. Get drunk as a skunk



 




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